--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > I read what he writes. He is completely absolutely 100% incorrect to > > distinguish this fanciful 'MMY/TMO enlightenment' or 'MMY-style > > enlightenment' from other modes or styles of enlightenment. Only a > > mind in bondage would even concieve of such an abstraction. > > Enlightenment is enlightenment is enlightenment. Each of us > > experiences It differently, but It is the same thing. > > > > There is no such thing as 'MMY/TMO style enlightenment' vs other > > styles of enlightenment. The idea is completely incorrect and > > rediculous! It is a stupid game he plays, who's only object is to > > disavow his own self-dissolution. > > Does exhibiting or not exhibiting particular subtle dualistic > phenomena qualify as "experiencing It differently"? What I see as the > defining core of awakening is a shift in identity from the limited > I/me to pure Being, the conscious nature, or however you choose to > describe that "I AM THATness". However, one can realize that shift in > identity without being able to perform esoteric parlor tricks. > Claiming that one is not awake unless he's witnessing 24/7 is absurd; > it's like claiming that one is not awake unless he can make steam rise > off ice-water soaked sheets wrapped around the body. > There's awake and there's *permanently* awake, though of course, even the 24/7 witnessing dudes (TSSWD?) may not be permanently in CC. In my experience, witnessing sleep is more common than witnessing wakefulness. I thought that was the most common way to go but perhaps not.
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