--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > <Irmeli.Mattsson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > From the idea that enlightened states of consciousness are STATES OF > > > > CONSCIOUSNESS, > > > > > complete with physiological styles of functioning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious, is there any observation of people losing their > > > > enlightened brainwave pattern, when they get old and senile, and > > > > hence also having lost their TMO style enlightenment. People's > > > > brainfuctioning generally deteriorate, when they get old. MMY's > > > > behavior has for some time shown clear signs of his deteroriating > > > > brainfunctioning (which is of course natural considering his > > > > respectably high age). > > > > > > > > Irmeli > > > > > > > > > > Actually, brain-functioning doesn't deteriorate all that much just > > because you get old, and > > > MMY doesn't show any signs of a stroke that I can see. Would you ask > > if people lose the > > > ability to sleep or dream just because they got old? > > > > > > > People don't lose their ability to dream, but many other functions > > deteriorate with aging. People get more sleep disturbances, they have > > more difficult to keep their balance, when moving. Balance keeping is > > a demanding function of coordination in the brain. Mental problems > > increase with aging often in the form of irrational fears and mild > > paranoia. If you asked a pathologist, he would definitely claim that > > there is clear age related deterioration happening in the brain, even > > if there may appear new structures also. > > I see a certain kind of deterioration in myself even if I'm only 55. I > > tend to forget names more easily now. I also have to put my > > appointments and many tasks on calendar to be sure to remember them on > > time. When younger I remembered all my appointments easily without any > > calendar. But I can see improvement also in some other areas. > > > > MMY's very weird behaviour and his many irrational claims and > > stumbling in his speaking I have considered to be a result from weaker > > brain functioning that is very common in people of his age. I don't > > claim his behaviour to be a result of a massive stroke. > > Without a massive stroke, I see no reason to assume he's become unenlightened due to > age, and I'm not sure that even that would do it. States of consciousness (and I suspect > that at least CC and certainly TC, qualify as unqiue states of consciousness) are pretty > hard to get rid of. > > 89 year old (90?) enlightened sages may be a little forgetful and irritable, but they're still > enlightened sages, I think. >
I agree, but do their brainwave scans still qualify for the TMO style enlightenment? Has any research been made on this issue? Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
