--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <groups@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> > , "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >>> >> 
> > > > >>> >> My prediction is that anyone who gets on 
> the "enlightened"
> > > list will
> > > > >>> >> be banned from future courses.  MMY's organization is 
> not
> > > built for
> > > > >>> >> people who claim to have reached the goal. The "only one
> > > beard in the
> > > > >>> >> room" rule still applies.  Am I wrong?
> > > > >>> >> 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > That's why Fred Travis has been able to publish 
> physiological
> > > studies on
> > > > >> > people who reported
> > > > >> > witnessing 24/7 for years on end: they're afraid to step 
> forward...
> > > > > 
> > > > Fred was very condescending and dismissive of an Awake friend
> > > > of mine whose brain waves didn¹t happen to match Fred¹s
> > > > expectations.
> > > 
> > > Where did TMO folks get the idea that being awake/enlightened is 
> a
> > > measurable, dualistic phenomenon?
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > From the idea that enlightened states of consciousness are STATES 
> OF CONSCIOUSNESS, 
> > complete with physiological styles of functioning.
> >
> I don't agree that such states are necessarily measurable with 
> today's instruments, even though they are each distinct.
>


Samadhi and CC seem to be. Perhaps the rest aren't.





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