--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > 
> >    After looking at a detailed report prepared by the major 
> >    advocates of this perspective [including Singer--JS], the 
> >    American Psychological Association concluded that the idea of 
> >    brainwashing and mind control as popularly applied to the new 
> >    religious movements was scientifically unacceptable.  It had 
been 
> >    arrived at through a sloppy metholology and poor scientific 
work. 
> > 
> >    Subsequently the American Sociological Association and the 
> >    Society for the Scientific Study of Religion reached a similar 
> >    conclusion.  As a result, testimony concerning brainwashing 
and 
> >    mind control have properly been banished from consideration by 
> >    American courts as an idea lacking any scientific credibility.
> >
> 
> Singer sued the APA over this and lost, BTW. But, it's
> nice for cult-followers to be able to blame the cult
> rather than themselves--whether it's the TMO that serves
> their needs for a cult to belong to or some other group

First they have to justify defining the group
as a cult, which is where Singer's incredibly
sloppy thinking is so con-VEEEEE-nient, because
the "subtlety" dodge allows you to define just
about any group as a cult.




--so they keep dragging out the "cult victim" claim 
> and then complain that someone is "blaming the victim" when people 
point out that not 
> everyone has had the same experience with the TMO that they do.
>







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