--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "What you are putting forth basically means
> the end of any and all honest communication."
> 
> Wow, you hit that one out of the park Sal.  High five.  What would
> have taken me pages summed up in one short phrase.

And it would have been just as insane as what
Sal said.

It's truly perplexing that *anybody* could get
what I'm saying so completely, totally, off-
the-wall wrong.  It isn't even *controversial*.

Let's take another example.

Suppose somebody says they don't think MMY is a
male chauvinist.

And I respond, "Well, he does say women should
stay at home and raise the children."

Would you assume I *believed* women should stay
at home and raise the children?

Or would you assume that I was pointing out that
what he says indicates that he's a male
chauvinist, contrary to what the first person
said?

The context of the exchange would suggest the
latter, would it not?

In context, there should be no impediment to
honest communication in this exchange.  I'm
disagreeing with the first person about whether
MMY is a male chauvinist, and I'm citing what MMY
has said to support my disagreement.

What would impede honest communication would be
if somebody else started berating me for supporting
MMY's male chauvinism.  I didn't express an opinion
either way about whether women should stay in the
home and raise children, so there's no basis for
making such an assumption.

Barry makes similar assumptions all the time, that
if a TMer quotes MMY about anything, it must mean
the TMer believes what MMY says is true.  But that
isn't necessarily the case, as the above example
shows.

As it happens, I *don't* believe women should stay
in the home and raise children.  I don't support
MMY's male chauvinism at all.  I was quoting MMY to
the first person not to support MMY's views but to
point out that MMY is indeed a male chauvinist.

Good grief, people, get a grip!







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