> > "What you are putting forth basically means
> > the end of any and all honest communication."
> 
> Wow, you hit that one out of the park Sal.  High five.  
> What would have taken me pages summed up in one short 
> phrase.

I'm going to spend a few more words (if not pages)
on this, because I suspect a lot of folks here 
still don't get the exact mechanics of this partic-
ular dodge. Since a couple of people here use it 
often, I think it's worth explaining *how* they 
use it.

Remember what I said in recent posts about those
who have adopted the True Believer mentality being
actually *afraid* to put their own doubts about and
lack of belief in the TM dogma into words? This dodge 
is one way that they avoid having to do so.

How it works is, when someone says something that
is contrary to the TM dogma, or that challenges it,
the people who use this dodge regularly (neither 
of them TM teachers) reply using pretty much the 
exact argument that we who are TM teachers were 
taught to use in this situation. It takes the 
form, "Well, MMY says..." or "The TMO says..." or 
"Scientific experiment X says..." And whatever 
form it takes, what they say just "happens" to 
refutes the point that is contrary to the dogma, 
or the criticism.

But (and here's the brilliant part), it refutes
it in a completely spineless way. The persons using
this particular dodge never have to say what *they*
believe about the point under discussion. If someone 
comes back in response to the dodge and claims that 
they are just parroting the TM party line (which, 
of course, they are by "quoting" it), they can say, 
"Hey! *I* didn't say that. Maharishi/Hagelin/the TMO/
whoever said that."

The dodge is a way to do exactly what they've
been taught to do -- protect the TM dogma and ideas
at any cost -- without *appearing* to do so. When
challenged, they always have the "out" of claiming,
"Hey! I was just quoting someone else...what makes
you think that's what *I* believe?"

Think I'm off base? Watch, next time this dodge 
is used here and challenged, and notice that the
person who uses it almost *never* says what he or
she really believes. They'll pretend to get all
uptight about people "mistakenly" assuming that
what they said is what *they* believe, pretend to
fly into a snit over it, and then somehow in all
the furor that they've stirred up, somehow "forget"
to say what it is they really believe.







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