--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <babajii_99@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Barry,
> 
> Hi.
> 
> > I'm not sure how to respond to being a human being 
> > who has missed your point so completely...so infinitely.
> > Exactly what is your point again?
> 
> My point was that some folks -- really admirable,
> spiritually-oriented folks -- seem to have become
> so enraptured by the First (or even the second) 
> Guru They Ever Met that even after all the silliness 
> they've seen along the Way, they have never considered 
> searching for a second (or third) opinion.
> 
> That phenomenon -- whatever you choose to call 
> it, and in however many spiritual traditions you
> may have found it -- strikes me as pretty damned
> interesting. It's a Class-A Mindfuck. I think 
> it's a phenomenon worthy of investigation. 
> 
> What *is* this feeling that tells some spiritual 
> seekers follow that it's Ok for them to *stop* 
> seeking, that they have found everything worth 
> seeking *for*
> 
> I don't claim to know whether this tendency to
> want to cling to one particular guru as the 
> ultimate authority is "better," or to know 
> whether the tendency to keep looking, to see 
> whether somebody else might have more of 
> a clue, is "better." 
> 
> I really don't have a fuckin' clue. I don't 
> know *which* is "better" or "worse." I don't 
> even think I believe in the whole *concept* 
> of "better" and "worse" as valid.

Interesting exercise: Read this whole post of
Barry's and see if you think his claim not to
rank these two approaches as "better/"worse" or
"higher/lower" is confirmed by how he describes
them.



 
> So shoot me.
> 
> I really don't know. Given a choice, I will 
> probably *always* keep searching, no matter who 
> or what I may have run into earlier along the 
> Way. That's just who and what I am, and where 
> my particular predilection leads me.
> 
> Other seekers have other predilections, and I 
> honestly believe that their predilections are 
> neither "higher" nor "lower" than mine. They 
> are just the predilections that These Kinda 
> People prefer. 
> 
> Now, to be honest, one of the things that still
> keeps me here at FFL is figuring out the puzzle
> of why These Kinda People seemingly cannot 
> conceive of having a predilection *without* 
> assuming that their particular predilection is 
> "better" than other predilctions, or that it 
> is the "best" possible predilection.
> 
> Hey. I'm weird. I *can* conceive of the path that
> I choose to follow, even if I follow it only for 
> a short time, being no better nor worse nor more 
> important nor less important than any other. It's 
> just the fuckin' path I chose to follow for one 
> short segment of my ongoing sequence of lifetimes, 
> man. You want me to get all serious about this 
> *particular* incarnation and *its* spiritual 
> teachers?  Get real.
> 
> If you have a problem with this, might I suggest
> that you take it up with the guy who implanted in
> you the "the natural tendency of the mind is to 
> seek greater fulfillment" meme. And who then told
> you to *settle* for it, to settle for the first 
> level of fulfillment you stumbled across, as if
> it were the "best."  Me, I took the guy who sold 
> me this meme at his word, and am still following 
> the natural tendency of my mind to this day. 
> 
> I kinda like where it's led me. How's your life 
> going?
>







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