--- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was > known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating > discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of our > country and abroad' > - for full text go to > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm
As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus) before he had conceived the idea of a nonsectarian meditation technique for the masses. Your oft-repeated insinuation that MMY was trying to hide Guru Dev's teaching because it would reflect poorly on himself still doesn't wash, Paul. MMY has *always* taught the nonsectarian elements of what Guru Dev taught. What he *could not* do was to teach what Guru Dev taught about meditation if he wanted TM to be universally accepted, which is what I was pointing out in the post you quote. Nor could he even have made it available, for the reasons I explained (and which you have not challenged). Can you find a recorded or transcribed talk of Guru Dev--about meditation or anything else--that has no sectarian elements, that would be universally acceptable, even to those who do not believe in God? > > > The Statement issued by: BAL BRAHMACHARI SHRI MAHESH JI. > 15th Oct., 1952 > > 'His aim of life, if the life of a realised soul can be said to > possess any such aim, is to broadcast the message of the Great Divine > light that he has himself realised, the Light that is the Soul of all > human beings. Having himself attained the pinnacle of Self > development, he aims at transforming the worldly minded people into > the Godly minded, and through his inner Divine touch to change the > materialistic hearts of iron into spiritual hearts of gold.' > > 'Shri Shankaracharya Maharaj has clear insight into the mind and the > thoughts of the modern age. His teaching and commendments are based > on sound reasonings which are quite agreeable to any reasonable > thinker. He is a great critic of prejudices and narrowmindedness > arising out of irrational love of caste, creed, nationality or > any "ism". His life is a living proof of the Truth of the Vedas and > Shastras. He has opened a new era of renaissance of True Religion. He > extends his recognition to anything that is good in any religion. He > is accessible to all. Everyone can enjoy and derive benefit from his > holy Darshan and elevating discourses.' > > 'The great Saint of the Himalayas in coming in your midst and in the > fitness of the great occasion, I appeal to your good sense to extend > your valuable support so that his elevating discourses may reach the > masses in every nook and corner of our country and abroad.' > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > Paul Mason wrote: > > > > > > >Guru Dev - Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati gives a few > > > >words about when and how to meditate. > > > >Translation by Paul Mason 31st August 2006 > > > > Paul, just how far do you think MMY would have > > gotten in teaching people around the world to > > meditate if he had been teaching a la Guru Dev? > > > > Or, what do you think would have happened if MMY > > had taught as he did, and these instructions from > > Guru Dev had been translated and made available > > through the TMO? How many TMers would have > > decided they were going to try it Guru Dev's way, > > and what would have been the result? Especially > > in the absence of Guru Dev's personal guidance? > > > > What was MMY going to say, "No, no, don't do what > > Guru Dev instructed, do what I instruct"? > > > > You keep suggesting that there's something > > sinister about MMY not promoting Guru Dev's actual > > teaching, but that's one of the silliest criticisms > > I've encountered. > > > > MMY obviously *didn't have a choice* if he wanted > > TM to be universally accepted--or even to *work*, > > for that matter. The context in which Guru Dev > > taught was just too different. > > > > I suppose MMY could have issued a carefully > > bowdlerized version of Guru Dev's lectures with > > all the sectarian Hinduism taken out. What would > > you have thought of that? What would have been > > left? Would that have been true to Guru Dev's > > intent? > > > > If you want to bash MMY for going global with TM > > instead of staying back in India and teaching a > > few people exactly what Guru Dev taught, ishtas and > > all--or for teaching anything in the first place-- > > fine. > > > > But if you don't disapprove of his wanting to > > make TM universal, you really don't have a leg to > > stand on in suggesting that he is dishonoring Guru > > Dev by not promoting his original teachings. That > > just makes no sense at all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
