I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the 
FFL notice board.
You ascribe so many motives to my postings - come on what is YOUR 
agenda? AND have you EVER actually practised this meditation thing 
you claim to have done. Are you just one of those anti-TMers who 
wants to make the Maharishi and the TM method appear so ineffective?


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> >
> > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)..<Snip>.'
> >
> > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's
> > Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple!
> 
> Nor did I say you noted that he was speaking at a Hindu
> temple, did I, Paul?
> 
> "As Paul notes" referred to your "Excerpts of speech
> made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he was known as
> such)."
> 
> You intentionally deceptively snipped the rest of
> the sentence to make it appear I was misquoting you.
> "To devout Hindus" was obviously *my* parenthetical,
> since you'd said nothing whatsoever about who he
> was speaking to.
> 
> If we know for a fact that his audience at the Young 
> Men's Tennis Club in Delhi were not devout Hindus, then
> of course I'll withdraw the parenthetical.
> 
> My main point, as you know, was that--as I went on
> to say, and as you yourself noted--MMY was speaking 
> before he had conceived the idea of a nonsectarian
> meditation technique for the masses.]
> 
> No cigar, Paul; not even a nice try.
> 
> 
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Paul Mason" 
> > > <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Excerpts of speech made by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (before he 
was
> > > > known as such) in which he asked that Guru Dev's 'elevating 
> > > > discourses may reach the masses in every nook and corner of 
our 
> > > > country and abroad' 
> > > > - for full text go to 
> > > > 
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/Maheshspeech.htm
> > > 
> > > As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)
> > > before he had conceived the idea of a nonsectarian
> > > meditation technique for the masses.
> > > 
> > > Your oft-repeated insinuation that MMY was trying
> > > to hide Guru Dev's teaching because it would reflect
> > > poorly on himself still doesn't wash, Paul.
> > > 
> > > MMY has *always* taught the nonsectarian elements
> > > of what Guru Dev taught.
> > > 
> > > What he *could not* do was to teach what Guru Dev
> > > taught about meditation if he wanted TM to be
> > > universally accepted, which is what I was pointing
> > > out in the post you quote.  Nor could he even have
> > > made it available, for the reasons I explained (and
> > > which you have not challenged).
> > > 
> > > Can you find a recorded or transcribed talk of
> > > Guru Dev--about meditation or anything else--that
> > > has no sectarian elements, that would be 
> > > universally acceptable, even to those who do not
> > > believe in God?
>






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