--- In [email protected], "vajradhatu108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> That's not to say "effort is bad", is just part and parcel of
> dualistic paths.
> 
> Reflexively authentic open awareness is not focused on any particular
> object and this is why no effort is needed. Any "consciousness" by
> necessity arises from causes, one of which is an object, even a 
subtle
> object. Self-arisen wisdom does not need an object. In fact
> effortless, nonmeditation requires *no subject or object.

You mention something called a dualistic path above, which 
necessitates the existence of a non-dualistic path, which is of course 
impossible, for who is on the path then?

So, even an effortless nonmeditation, where the goal is self-arisen 
wisdom, is a practice distinct from daily activity, and hence, a 
dualistic path.

What you have described above is a non-dual nonmeditation possibly 
*within a dualistic path*, requiring effort to distinquish between the 
nonmeditation used to bring about self-arisen wisdom, and all other 
activity. 

Only when we speak about our establishment in a non-dual state, and 
the path existing *within* the non-dual state, is any practice of 
meditation, or nonmeditation, or watching TV, or eating a meal, 
dancing or sleeping, experienced as a non-dual path, within the non-
dual state; A path of endless knowledge, existing within itself.

  






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