Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory

[Louis McKenzie]

The difference between John and Dennis

 

There were many people who started what the movement called heavy unstressing in 1977.  Sitting in the LC doing the moring meditation there would be many sounds of people have major releases.  (Sounds like a pressure cooker popping)  Many of these people would have experiences of bouncing and so forth.  

 

Well many of those people became candidates for the John SHapiro Graduation program.   I became very afraid that maybe I was one of those.   Even one day a girl came up to me and said WOW Louis I am just like you.  When she said it I thought OH BOY!  I went to Dennis and I asked if maybe I was going nuts. 

 

Dennis said no and arranged for me to have a piece of foam in my room.   That night the same girl got carried out in the ambulance. 

For some reason I was on the Dennis Squad and many people who were having problems passed my way.  I was in love with one person HD she had doen two six month programs and a 3 month extention in 76.  I thought WOW! she must be enligthened.  We became close.   Then she lost it.  She had gotten fried.   EK was another and several other people MS evem the student gov President William had to deal with him.   He grabbed a governor in H&W and started working through his sexuality.   Anyway John Shapiro seemed very inadequate in working with these people Dennis was much better.   He always tried to work with people before bringing in John Shapiro because Johns was was send you to the fairfield mental hospital or send the person home.  Dennis would try talking they even created a program one forrest academy right after the summer sidhis program of going in the reservoir.  Runnning in the snow all kinds of stuff to normalise the unstressing.   I never did these things but I know people who had to.

 

ANyway Dennis was likeable John was not.   I used to think he had an interesting closet thing going on.

 

Roger was actually Roderick when he changed his name it was not such a big deal because he was not very well known at the time.   Yet when he became involved with Student Goverment then he was more visible.  I dont know if you remember him before he went to TTC but he used to use these suits that he had made while in Korea.   Yellow, Pink light blue you name it.   With big platform shoes, he was not the conformist type. 

 

I dont know what it was about the Christian converts but many of them always ended up in the same place.  Most recently a friend named Trevor became born again in 95 or 96 something like that.  By 96 he had stopped meditating.   Then in 2001 9/11 his office looked right at the world trade center from Hoboken he saw everything as it happened.   By 2002 he was fired from his job and had some sort of breakdown.   For him this was IMPOSSIBLE Trevor was alway level headed cool calm and collected.  

 

I always lived in fear that maybe I was going to bug.  Yet to this point I have not.   I could have been thought totally nuts but some people with some of the experiences I was having but.  Only once did I have a problem.  My buddy in Forrest academy was William Jones.  I had a great desire to punch him.   I knew that something must have been wrong, so I went to Dennis and said I think I am going to have a violent our burst.  Dennis just said try to handle it on your own, before bringing it to me because you will not be able to go on the sidhis course.

 

I masturbated and ate peanut butter. I remember sitting next to William looking in his eyes the way he liked to do and saying "You know I feel like punching you in the face."  He knew something was wrong he just said go ahead.  I guess if I ever had best friends it would have had to have been WIlliam and Trevor.

 

The nuts cases at MIU always thought that I was going to give the Sidhis to them.  I NEVER DID.   WIlliam got his sidhis in Israel and Trevor got his in Columbia.  If you ever see the graduation video of the first summer sidhi program you will see me riinging the bell of invincibility like it was the bell of life.    Because I had to go through a bunch to get the sidhis.  

 

 

 

 

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From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltablues@ ...> wrote:
>
> I can imagine how weird it would have been if you were doing
> unauthorized, and un paid for, flying Louis! I had some experience
> with National when I taught at the DC center that lead me to
believe
> that being black in the movement was no picnic. The air of
suspicion
> was real. Remember when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga? The
name
> changing really shook up the higher ups I'll bet!
>
> I always thought John was put in a bad position because many people
> needed counseling but he was so restricted with mixed messages from
> the movement about his profession. He must have always been
walking on
> eggshells with the higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all
problems,
> but what do you do if it doesn't?
>
> Remember Pavlik? He had his breakdown having lunch with me.
(causal?)
> He had taken a few blocks of sidhis and felt like he was losing
his
> mind, and wanted to meet for lunch to talk about it. He went
> completely mad in front of me. I dragged him physically to John's
> office. John seemed terrified. Pavlik was totally out of it and
> needed medication. Maybe his professional experience gave John an
> insight into what was possible from a person in this state, Pavlik
was
> a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all out of John's league. But he
was
> the only guy on campus in that position. I remember feeling like
the
> situation was out of control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or
> knew how to manage the situation. John was using me to control
> Pavlik. I don't think I was really the right guy for the job! They
> shipped him off to a hospital. His life took more tragic turns
after
> that. He was banned from campus and started the downward spiral of
> homelessness and incarceration. That is a tough age group for
> breakdowns. I don't know if it was any different at MIU from any
> other college. I do know that people who needed help were
threatened
> with being denied courses if they sought psychological help. I
hope
> they have corrected this flaw since the student got stabbed. I
wonder
> what happened to John?

Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps who
handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill anyone.

>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@>
wrote:
> >
> > John SHapiro was a nut case. He was the school psychologist.
I
> was being watched because I was flying before the course, and in
order
> to be on the course I had to agree not to fly until I got the
> technique. Also I had a good friend who was working on staff and
some
> had the fear that I might give him the sidhis. Being the only
Black
> on the course had its disavantages. Give example one day I saw
John
> following me. I thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day
> before I had eaten in the blue room. So I went in and waited at the
> door and when he put his face to the window too look in I put mind
to
> the other side or opened the door and said YES!
> >
> > They had a guy named Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my
> door to see if I was flying. Just so happened that when I
meditated
> I could sometimes see things that I could not see when not
meditating
> so I called Mark by name and asked why he was standing outside my
door.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like"
Theory
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Coming from the old days the most crazy experience
> > > I had with Christians was when they had infiltrated
> > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin Miller,
> > > he did the whole summer program when at the end he
> > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying
> > > to convert me to Jesus. Also telling me all kinds
> > > of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There
> > > was some minister in town who was converting people.
> > > Kevin had been a plant. WOW! I called Dennis.
> > > They talked to him and soon after he left. I could
> > > not believe that someone would have stayed the whole
> > > summer and then betrayed the whole system like that.
> >
> > Very highly motivated?
> >
> > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could
> > someone from the outside have gotten to him while he
> > was doing the summer program?
> >
> > > Then I thought John Shapiro was too busy watching me
> > > and not paying attention to people like Kevin this
> > > is how these things happened.
> >
> > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John
> > Shapiro is.)
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:44:04 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like"
Theory
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB
<no_reply@ .>
> > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Very few religions or spiritual groups could be more
> > > > characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian
> > > > fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can
> > > > think for themselves threaten them. People who are
> > > > open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So
> > > > "like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads
> > > > into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous,
> > > > and decided to fight the TMO.
> > >
> > > I don't think TM has ever made any "inroads"
> > > into the number of Christian fundies. Some
> > > young people who had been brought up fundie
> > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as
> > > they got older may eventually have gravitated
> > > to TM, but they were already irrevocably lost
> > > to the fundies.
> > >
> > > I suspect you'd find there are far more people
> > > who used to be TMers who have become fundies
> > > than vice-versa.
> > <snip>
> >
>