The
difference between John and Dennis
There
were many people who started what the movement called heavy unstressing in
1977. Sitting in the LC doing the moring meditation there would be many
sounds of people have major releases. (Sounds like a pressure
cooker popping) Many of these people would have experiences of bouncing
and so forth.
Well
many of those people became candidates for the John SHapiro Graduation
program. I became very afraid that maybe I was one of
those. Even one day a girl came up to me and said WOW Louis I am
just like you. When she said it I thought OH BOY! I went to Dennis
and I asked if maybe I was going nuts.
Dennis
said no and arranged for me to have a piece of foam in my room.
That night the same girl got carried out in the ambulance.
For
some reason I was on the Dennis Squad and many people who were having problems
passed my way. I was in love with one person HD she had doen two six
month programs and a 3 month extention in 76. I thought WOW! she must be
enligthened. We became close. Then she lost it. She
had gotten fried. EK was another and several other people MS evem
the student gov President William had to deal with him. He grabbed
a governor in H&W and started working through his sexuality.
Anyway John Shapiro seemed very inadequate in working with these people Dennis
was much better. He always tried to work with people before
bringing in John Shapiro because Johns was was send you to the
fairfield mental hospital or send the person home. Dennis
would try talking they even created a program one forrest academy right after
the summer sidhis program of going in the reservoir. Runnning in the
snow all kinds of stuff to normalise the unstressing. I never did
these things but I know people who had to.
ANyway
Dennis was likeable John was not. I used to think he had an
interesting closet thing going on.
Roger
was actually Roderick when he changed his name it was not such a big deal
because he was not very well known at the time. Yet when he became
involved with Student Goverment then he was more visible. I dont know if
you remember him before he went to TTC but he used to use these suits that he
had made while in Korea. Yellow, Pink light blue you name
it. With big platform shoes, he was not the conformist type.
I
dont know what it was about the Christian converts but many of them always
ended up in the same place. Most recently a friend named Trevor became
born again in 95 or 96 something like that. By 96 he had stopped
meditating. Then in 2001 9/11 his office looked right at the world
trade center from Hoboken he saw everything as it happened. By
2002 he was fired from his job and had some sort of breakdown. For
him this was IMPOSSIBLE Trevor was alway level headed cool calm and
collected.
I
always lived in fear that maybe I was going to bug. Yet to this point I
have not. I could have been thought totally nuts but some people
with some of the experiences I was having but. Only once did I have a
problem. My buddy in Forrest academy was William Jones. I had a
great desire to punch him. I knew that something must have been
wrong, so I went to Dennis and said I think I am going to have a violent our
burst. Dennis just said try to handle it on your own, before bringing it
to me because you will not be able to go on the sidhis course.
I
masturbated and ate peanut butter. I remember sitting next to William looking
in his eyes the way he liked to do and saying "You know I feel like punching
you in the face." He knew something was wrong he just said go
ahead. I guess if I ever had best friends it would have had to have been
WIlliam and Trevor.
The
nuts cases at MIU always thought that I was going to give the Sidhis to
them. I NEVER DID. WIlliam got his sidhis in Israel and
Trevor got his in Columbia. If you ever see the graduation video of the
first summer sidhi program you will see me riinging the bell of invincibility
like it was the bell of life. Because I had to go through a
bunch to get the sidhis.
yu riginal Message ----
From: shempmcgurk
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To:
[email protected]Sent:
Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The
Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltablues@ ...> wrote:
>
> I can imagine how
weird it would have been if you were doing
> unauthorized, and un paid
for, flying Louis! I had some experience
> with National when I taught
at the DC center that lead me to
believe
> that being black in the
movement was no picnic. The air of
suspicion
> was real. Remember
when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga? The
name
> changing really
shook up the higher ups I'll bet!
>
> I always thought John was
put in a bad position because many people
> needed counseling but he was
so restricted with mixed messages from
> the movement about his
profession. He must have always been
walking on
> eggshells with the
higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all
problems,
> but what do you
do if it doesn't?
>
> Remember Pavlik? He had his breakdown
having lunch with me.
(causal?)
> He had taken a few blocks of
sidhis and felt like he was losing
his
> mind, and wanted to meet
for lunch to talk about it. He went
> completely mad in front of me. I
dragged him physically to John's
> office. John seemed terrified. Pavlik
was totally out of it and
> needed medication. Maybe his professional
experience gave John an
> insight into what was possible from a person
in this state, Pavlik
was
> a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all
out of John's league. But he
was
> the only guy on campus in that
position. I remember feeling like
the
> situation was out of
control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or
> knew how to manage the
situation. John was using me to control
> Pavlik. I don't think I was
really the right guy for the job! They
> shipped him off to a hospital.
His life took more tragic turns
after
> that. He was banned from
campus and started the downward spiral of
> homelessness and
incarceration. That is a tough age group for
> breakdowns. I don't know
if it was any different at MIU from any
> other college. I do know that
people who needed help were
threatened
> with being denied courses
if they sought psychological help. I
hope
> they have corrected this
flaw since the student got stabbed. I
wonder
> what happened to
John?
Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps
who
handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill
anyone.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie
<ltm457@>
wrote:
> >
> > John SHapiro was a nut
case. He was the school psychologist.
I
> was being watched because
I was flying before the course, and in
order
> to be on the course I
had to agree not to fly until I got the
> technique. Also I had a good
friend who was working on staff and
some
> had the fear that I might
give him the sidhis. Being the only
Black
> on the course had its
disavantages. Give example one day I saw
John
> following me. I
thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day
> before I had eaten in
the blue room. So I went in and waited at the
> door and when he put his
face to the window too look in I put mind
to
> the other side or
opened the door and said YES!
> >
> > They had a guy named
Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my
> door to see if I was
flying. Just so happened that when I
meditated
> I could sometimes
see things that I could not see when not
meditating
> so I called
Mark by name and asked why he was standing outside my
door.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message
----
> > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday,
October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The
Karmic "Like Attracts Like"
Theory
> >
> > --- In
FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@>
> >
wrote:
> > >
> > > Coming from the old days the most
crazy experience
> > > I had with Christians was when they had
infiltrated
> > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin
Miller,
> > > he did the whole summer program when at the end
he
> > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying
>
> > to convert me to Jesus. Also telling me all kinds
> > >
of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There
> > > was some
minister in town who was converting people.
> > > Kevin had been a
plant. WOW! I called Dennis.
> > > They talked to him and soon
after he left. I could
> > > not believe that someone would have
stayed the whole
> > > summer and then betrayed the whole system
like that.
> >
> > Very highly motivated?
> >
> > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could
>
> someone from the outside have gotten to him while he
> > was
doing the summer program?
> >
> > > Then I thought John
Shapiro was too busy watching me
> > > and not paying attention to
people like Kevin this
> > > is how these things happened.
>
>
> > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John
>
> Shapiro is.)
> >
> > > ----- Original Message
----
> > > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > > To:
FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22,
2006 11:44:04 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic
"Like Attracts Like"
Theory
> > >
> > > --- In
FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB
<no_reply@ .>
>
> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Very few
religions or spiritual groups could be more
> > > >
characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian
> > > >
fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can
> > > >
think for themselves threaten them. People who are
> > > >
open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So
> > > >
"like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads
> > > >
into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous,
> > > >
and decided to fight the TMO.
> > >
> > > I don't
think TM has ever made any "inroads"
> > > into the number of
Christian fundies. Some
> > > young people who had been brought up
fundie
> > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as
>
> > they got older may eventually have gravitated
> > > to
TM, but they were already irrevocably lost
> > > to the
fundies.
> > >
> > > I suspect you'd find there are
far more people
> > > who used to be TMers who have become
fundies
> > > than vice-versa.
> > <snip>
>
>
>