From: curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:49:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory
Luis,
Yeah I agree with your analysis of Dennis being more comfortable in
his skin than John. It did make him a better communicator for all of
us. Even though I felt John was in over his head in the job, I think
he was sincere. But then I didn't have him following me around. I
don't know if you closet theory pans out, I never saw him after MIU.
I understand the vib you caught. Who knows. Being effeminate was so
in vogue in the faculty.
I do remember Rodrick's wild suits (thanks for the name correction)
But forget the dudes, remember Denise who became Nuemi? I knew her in
DC also. Great chick. Coulda destroyed the Purusha hope of half the
movement if she decided to.
--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The difference between John and Dennis
>
> There were many people who
started what the movement called heavy
unstressing in 1977. Sitting in the LC doing the moring meditation
there would be many sounds of people have major releases. (Sounds
like a pressure cooker popping) Many of these people would have
experiences of bouncing and so forth.
>
> Well many of those people became candidates for the John SHapiro
Graduation program. I became very afraid that maybe I was one of
those. Even one day a girl came up to me and said WOW Louis I am
just like you. When she said it I thought OH BOY! I went to Dennis
and I asked if maybe I was going nuts.
>
> Dennis said no and arranged for me to have a piece of foam in my
room. That night the same girl got carried out in the ambulance.
> For some reason I was on the Dennis Squad and many people who were
having problems passed my way. I was in love with one person HD she
had doen two six month programs and a 3 month extention in 76.
I
thought WOW! she must be enligthened. We became close. Then she
lost it. She had gotten fried. EK was another and several other
people MS evem the student gov President William had to deal with him.
He grabbed a governor in H&W and started working through his
sexuality. Anyway John Shapiro seemed very inadequate in working
with these people Dennis was much better. He always tried to work
with people before bringing in John Shapiro because Johns was was send
you to the fairfield mental hospital or send the person home. Dennis
would try talking they even created a program one forrest academy
right after the summer sidhis program of going in the reservoir.
Runnning in the snow all kinds of stuff to normalise the unstressing.
I never did these things but I know
> people who had to.
>
> ANyway Dennis was likeable John was not. I used to think he had an
interesting closet thing going on.
>
> Roger was
actually Roderick when he changed his name it was not such
a big deal because he was not very well known at the time. Yet when
he became involved with Student Goverment then he was more visible. I
dont know if you remember him before he went to TTC but he used to use
these suits that he had made while in Korea. Yellow, Pink light blue
you name it. With big platform shoes, he was not the conformist type.
>
> I dont know what it was about the Christian converts but many of
them always ended up in the same place. Most recently a friend named
Trevor became born again in 95 or 96 something like that. By 96 he
had stopped meditating. Then in 2001 9/11 his office looked right at
the world trade center from Hoboken he saw everything as it happened.
By 2002 he was fired from his job and had some sort of breakdown.
For him this was IMPOSSIBLE Trevor was alway level headed cool calm
and collected.
>
> I always lived in
fear that maybe I was going to bug. Yet to this
point I have not. I could have been thought totally nuts but some
people with some of the experiences I was having but. Only once did I
have a problem. My buddy in Forrest academy was William Jones. I had
a great desire to punch him. I knew that something must have been
wrong, so I went to Dennis and said I think I am going to have a
violent our burst. Dennis just said try to handle it on your own,
before bringing it to me because you will not be able to go on the
sidhis course.
>
> I masturbated and ate peanut butter. I remember sitting next to
William looking in his eyes the way he liked to do and saying "You
know I feel like punching you in the face." He knew something was
wrong he just said go ahead. I guess if I ever had best friends it
would have had to have been WIlliam and Trevor.
>
> The nuts cases at MIU always thought that I was going to give
the
Sidhis to them. I NEVER DID. WIlliam got his sidhis in Israel and
Trevor got his in Columbia. If you ever see the graduation video of
the first summer sidhi program you will see me riinging the bell of
invincibility like it was the bell of life. Because I had to go
through a bunch to get the sidhis.
>
>
>
>
>
> yu riginal Message ----
> From: shempmcgurk <shempmcgurk@ ...>
> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I can imagine how weird it would have been if you were doing
> > unauthorized, and un paid for, flying Louis! I had some
experience
> > with National when I taught at the DC center that lead me to
> believe
> > that being black in the movement was no picnic. The air of
> suspicion
> > was real. Remember when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga? The
> name
> > changing really shook up the higher ups I'll bet!
> >
> > I always thought John was put in a bad position because many people
> > needed counseling but he was so restricted with mixed messages from
> > the movement about his profession. He must have always been
> walking on
> > eggshells with the higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all
> problems,
> > but what do you do if it doesn't?
> >
> > Remember Pavlik? He had his breakdown having lunch with me.
> (causal?)
> > He had taken a few blocks of sidhis and felt like he was losing
> his
> > mind, and wanted to
meet for lunch to talk about it. He went
> > completely mad in front of me. I dragged him physically to John's
> > office. John seemed terrified. Pavlik was totally out of it and
> > needed medication. Maybe his professional experience gave John an
> > insight into what was possible from a person in this state, Pavlik
> was
> > a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all out of John's league. But he
> was
> > the only guy on campus in that position. I remember feeling like
> the
> > situation was out of control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or
> > knew how to manage the situation. John was using me to control
> > Pavlik. I don't think I was really the right guy for the job! They
> > shipped him off to a hospital. His life took more tragic turns
> after
> > that. He was banned from campus and started the downward spiral of
> > homelessness
and incarceration. That is a tough age group for
> > breakdowns. I don't know if it was any different at MIU from any
> > other college. I do know that people who needed help were
> threatened
> > with being denied courses if they sought psychological help. I
> hope
> > they have corrected this flaw since the student got stabbed. I
> wonder
> > what happened to John?
>
> Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps who
> handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill anyone.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > John SHapiro was a nut case. He was the school psychologist.
> I
> > was being watched because I was flying before the course, and in
> order
> > to be
on the course I had to agree not to fly until I got the
> > technique. Also I had a good friend who was working on staff and
> some
> > had the fear that I might give him the sidhis. Being the only
> Black
> > on the course had its disavantages. Give example one day I saw
> John
> > following me. I thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day
> > before I had eaten in the blue room. So I went in and waited at the
> > door and when he put his face to the window too look in I put mind
> to
> > the other side or opened the door and said YES!
> > >
> > > They had a guy named Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my
> > door to see if I was flying. Just so happened that when I
> meditated
> > I could sometimes see things that I could not see when not
> meditating
> > so I called Mark by name and asked why he was
standing outside my
> door.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like"
> Theory
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Coming from the old days the most crazy experience
> > > > I had with Christians was when they had infiltrated
> > > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin Miller,
> > > > he did the whole summer program when at the end he
> > > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying
> > > > to convert me to
Jesus. Also telling me all kinds
> > > > of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There
> > > > was some minister in town who was converting people.
> > > > Kevin had been a plant. WOW! I called Dennis.
> > > > They talked to him and soon after he left. I could
> > > > not believe that someone would have stayed the whole
> > > > summer and then betrayed the whole system like that.
> > >
> > > Very highly motivated?
> > >
> > > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could
> > > someone from the outside have gotten to him while he
> > > was doing the summer program?
> > >
> > > > Then I thought John Shapiro was too busy watching me
> > > > and not paying attention to people like Kevin this
> > > > is how these things happened.
> > >
> > > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John
> > > Shapiro is.)
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:44:04 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like"
> Theory
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB
> <no_reply@ .>
> > > wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > Very few religions or spiritual groups could be more
> > > > > characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian
> > > > > fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can
> > > > > think for themselves threaten them. People who are
> > > >
> open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So
> > > > > "like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads
> > > > > into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous,
> > > > > and decided to fight the TMO.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think TM has ever made any "inroads"
> > > > into the number of Christian fundies. Some
> > > > young people who had been brought up fundie
> > > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as
> > > > they got older may eventually have gravitated
> > > > to TM, but they were already irrevocably lost
> > > > to the fundies.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect you'd find there are far more people
> > > > who used to be TMers who have become fundies
> > > > than vice-versa.
> > > <snip>
>
> >
> >
>
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