--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can imagine how weird it would have been if you were doing
> unauthorized, and un paid for, flying Louis!  I had some experience
> with National when I taught at the DC center that lead me to 
believe
> that being black in the movement was no picnic. The air of 
suspicion
> was real.  Remember when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga?  The 
name
> changing really shook up the higher ups I'll bet!
> 
> I always thought John was put in a bad position because many people
> needed counseling but he was so restricted with mixed messages from
> the movement about his profession. He must have always been 
walking on
> eggshells with the higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all 
problems,
> but what do you do if it doesn't?
> 
> Remember Pavlik?  He had his breakdown having lunch with me. 
(causal?)
>  He had taken a few blocks of sidhis and felt like he was losing 
his
> mind, and wanted to meet for lunch to talk about it.  He went
> completely mad in front of me.  I dragged him physically to John's
> office.  John seemed terrified.  Pavlik was totally out of it and
> needed medication. Maybe his professional experience gave John an
> insight into what was possible from a person in this state, Pavlik 
was
> a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all out of John's league. But he 
was
> the only guy on campus in that position.  I remember feeling like 
the
> situation was out of control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or
> knew how to manage the situation.  John was using me to control
> Pavlik. I don't think I was really the right guy for the job!  They
> shipped him off to a hospital.  His life took more tragic turns 
after
> that.  He was banned from campus and started the downward spiral of
> homelessness and incarceration. That is a tough age group for
> breakdowns.  I don't know if it was any different at MIU from any
> other college.  I do know that people who needed help were 
threatened
> with being denied courses if they sought psychological help.  I 
hope
> they have corrected this flaw since the student got stabbed.  I 
wonder
> what happened to John?



Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps who 
handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill anyone.




> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> 
wrote:
> >
> > John SHapiro was a nut case.   He was the school psychologist.   
I
> was being watched because I was flying before the course, and in 
order
> to be on the course I had to agree not to fly until I got the
> technique.  Also I had a good friend who was working on staff and 
some
> had the fear that I might give him the sidhis.   Being the only 
Black
> on the course had its disavantages.   Give example one day I saw 
John
> following me.  I thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day
> before I had eaten in the blue room. So I went in and waited at the
> door and when he put his face to the window too look in I put mind 
to
> the other side or opened the door and said YES!
> > 
> > They had a guy named Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my
> door to see if I was flying.   Just so happened that when I 
meditated
> I could sometimes see things that I could not see when not 
meditating
> so I called Mark by name and asked why he was standing outside my 
door.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" 
Theory
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Coming from the old days the most crazy experience
> > > I had with Christians was when they had infiltrated
> > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin Miller,
> > > he did the whole summer program when at the end he
> > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying
> > > to convert me to Jesus. Also telling me all kinds
> > > of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There
> > > was some minister in town who was converting people.
> > > Kevin had been a plant. WOW! I called Dennis.
> > > They talked to him and soon after he left. I could
> > > not believe that someone would have stayed the whole
> > > summer and then betrayed the whole system like that.
> > 
> > Very highly motivated?
> > 
> > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could
> > someone from the outside have gotten to him while he
> > was doing the summer program?
> > 
> > > Then I thought John Shapiro was too busy watching me
> > > and not paying attention to people like Kevin this
> > > is how these things happened.
> > 
> > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John
> > Shapiro is.)
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: authfriend <jstein@>
> > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:44:04 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" 
Theory
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB 
<no_reply@ .> 
> > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Very few religions or spiritual groups could be more
> > > > characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian
> > > > fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can
> > > > think for themselves threaten them. People who are 
> > > > open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So
> > > > "like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads
> > > > into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous,
> > > > and decided to fight the TMO.
> > > 
> > > I don't think TM has ever made any "inroads"
> > > into the number of Christian fundies. Some
> > > young people who had been brought up fundie
> > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as
> > > they got older may eventually have gravitated
> > > to TM, but they were already irrevocably lost
> > > to the fundies.
> > > 
> > > I suspect you'd find there are far more people
> > > who used to be TMers who have become fundies
> > > than vice-versa.
> > <snip>
> >
>





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