jim_flanegin wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> >> > wrote: > >>> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> >>> > wrote: > >>>> Total posts: 4672 >>>> >>>> shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) >>>> sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) >>>> authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) >>>> new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) >>>> off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) >>>> turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) >>>> >>>> Again, the "top three" account for a third >>>> of all posts. And again, they'll take no >>>> notice of this. So far in November, they >>>> account for 47% of all posts made. >>>> >>> What's the harm? >>> >> No one is suggesting that these three don't post. >> However, quite a few people here have commented >> on the effect that their *lack of self control* >> in posting has had on the newsgroup. >> >> Imagine being a newbie, drawn to FFL by the blurb >> on the home page, and trying to read through it >> yesterday and today. What you would find is a >> group that *appears* to be dominated by three >> rather vociferous and harsh people. Their posts >> constitute almost half of everything you could >> read on the forum. They seem to do nothing but >> argue (or, to be kind, they seem to do nothing >> but argue in 80% of their posts). And they argue, >> for the most part, about subjects that have little >> or nothing to do with the subjects that attracted >> you as a newbie to the group in the first place. >> >> Would you be moved to give such a group a second try? >> >> To me, the issue is a social one. Quite a few people >> here have tried, in one way or another to *get through* >> to these three and tell them that their lack of self >> control and tendency to dominate the forum by regularly >> posting twice to six times as much as the other regular >> posters is not appreciated. People have asked them >> politely to cut down. Others have suggested giving >> them an enforced "time out." Still others have stopped >> reading them entirely. >> >> BUT (and this is the important thing IMO), *at no >> point* in all of this has any of the three ever given >> the impression that they *hear* what the other members >> of their community are saying to them. Shemp actually >> treats it as a joke, and continues to make posts that >> seem to have *no other function* but to provoke the >> other two, and cause them to post even more. Sparaig >> reacts to posts like mine that point out his habits >> by *posting even more*. And although Judy *has* cut >> down a little from her highs of a few months ago, >> whenever the subject comes up she reacts by claim- >> ing that people (me, in particular) are trying to >> silence or censor her. >> >> I think I speak for many people here in saying that >> all we're asking is for these three to CATCH A >> FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that what they are doing >> is socially unacceptable. >> >> A CHILD would have heard the feedback they'd received >> from their peers by this time and made some attempt >> to change their unaccpetable behavior. Why haven't >> these three? >> >> > I'm sorry but I don't see what they are doing as a problem. I find > enough worthwhile content here to be interested, and if I wasn't I'd > go elsewhere. The vibe of this place is such that anything is > accepted. That is its charter. So your unhappiness over these three > posters is OK, just as their continued posting is OK. > > I have seen successful attempts at changing the discourse on this > forum numerous times, and I observe that it results from coming up > with something engaging and stimulating, vs. attempting to censor > anyone. > > PS I do find your posted % of posters thing interesting. And given that I read via email it is easy to skip over posts in Thunderbird plus arrange them in all kinds of order to facilitate things. I found the web site a pain with its limited display options. I have dropped the retention policy for my FFL folder from 7 days to 5 to make the folder easier to navigate.
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