--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > <snip to>
> > I think I speak for many people here in saying that
> > all we're asking is for these three to CATCH A
> > FUCKIN' CLUE and realize that what they are doing
> > is socially unacceptable. 
> > 
> > A CHILD would have heard the feedback they'd received
> > from their peers by this time and made some attempt
> > to change their unaccpetable behavior. Why haven't 
> > these three?
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't see what they are doing as a problem. I find 
> enough worthwhile content here to be interested, and if I wasn't I'd 
> go elsewhere. The vibe of this place is such that anything is 
> accepted. That is its charter. So your unhappiness over these three 
> posters is OK, just as their continued posting is OK.

I have no problem with that. But you've been here
a while. In my long post I was presenting the case
for what such (IMO) compulsive overposting does to 
the potential *newbie*, to someone who has not yet 
had a chance to see whether this forum contains 
interesting material, and who may never get to see 
that if they are turned off in their first visit.

> I have seen successful attempts at changing the discourse on this 
> forum numerous times, and I observe that it results from coming up 
> with something engaging and stimulating, vs. attempting to censor 
> anyone.

I agree. But failing that :-), I was just trying one
more time to appeal to the human being inside the
compulsive poster. I'll do it one last time and then
let the subject drop.

Shemp, I love you, man. You're *funny* in a way that
many others here are not. And you've got some good
things to say. It's just that the posts in which you
seem to have no other intent in mind but to provoke
someone and push their buttons are not included in
my list of your "good things to say" posts.

Sparaig, you've got some great things to say, too.
I just wish that you'd do it in fewer actual posts,
and that you'd lay off trotting out the old, tired
arguments that people like us (that is, TM teachers)
*taught* you, as if hearing them again will somehow
entice us to come back to the fold.

And Judy, you're more intelligent than to really
believe that you actually win when you think that
you "win." You'd make a better impression if you just
presented your arguments once or twice, cogently, and
then kicked back and allowed others to do the same.
Your tendency to treat each opinion that is contrary
to yours as an opportunity (and, truly, a *need*) to 
"win" some imagined battle undercuts the real and 
valuable things you have to say.

To all of you, if you tried to limit yourselves to
ten posts a day, you would *still* be posting more
than anyone else here. But I think that at that point
the subject of your "overposting" would never again 
come up, and you'd have gained some respect from
your peers in the process. To continue to ignore the
feedback you have been getting for *months* now can
only be interpreted as a lack of respect for those 
who have given it to you. *Trying* to cut down a 
little would be IMO a good way to establish that you 
do have some respect for the others here. Even if 
you fail at the attempt it would demonstrate some
respect. No trying, no respect.

There. I've tried to treat them like adults. Let's
see if there is actually an adult home to hear it.

> PS I do find your posted % of posters thing interesting.

I think it's fascinating, too. When new.morning first
posted the statistics on the most prolific posters,
I was shocked and embarrassed to find myself near the
top. I have endeavored to lower my standing ever since.
Having to keep saying stuff like this, to adults who
should have been able to hear it long ago, does not
help in that endeavor.  :-)






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