--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mantras are just relative vehicles for transcending. > There's all kinds of seductive celestial beautiful > sattvic bullshit that you can get lost in for a > billion years. But once the mind is clear of major > vasanas through years and years of asanas, pranayama, > meditaing, samayama, sattvic food, bhakti, etc. and > the mantra starts bringing the mind right down to that > nil state of activity and That begins to clarify > itself as the Absolute, everything else reveals itself > to be just a thought. Truly, just a thought. A curious > fiction made-up by the mind. No reality to anything of > the relative. Like the thoughts when someone reads a > story to you. Once upon a time there was beautiful > princess who lived in a castle...... (I just finished > my program, as if you couldn't tell ;-))
I really like this post, Dr. Pete. Thank you. And keep meditating! > > --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Comments interleaved below. > > > > --- Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Gillam wrote: > > > > > > > > do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a > > > > vig on each transaction? > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if > > misspelt, what you mean. > > > > A "vig" is a vigorish, of fee. I used that slang > > term > > because this thread had formed a mental picture > > of a bija deity granting a boon in exchange for > > some energy in return. > > > > My doctor remarked that the problem with any Indian > > meditation was this tit-for-tat exchange. I was > > wondering if there was any basis in his remarks. > > > > I recall one of the Kaplans accusing Maharishi of > > sucking > > energy from his meditators, but dismissed it as a > > rant. Still, > > the accusation comes to mind again in the context of > > this thread. > > > > > The TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO > > misinformation. The TM > > > mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, > > not take it away. > > > > Thanks for once again making the distinction, and > > yes, > > more energy has been my experience. > > > > > A tantric might also argue that before you use > > such a mantra, you have > > > to "prepare the field" by a process called > > bhuta-shuddhi or > > > purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa > > without it can > > > exacerbate imbalances. > > > > Yeah, and driving to the store can get you killed. > > I'm > > glad MMY didn't insist I do pranayam for six months > > before I could learn to meditate, which was the case > > > > for a neighbor doing some other practice. > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail > (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
