Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three things I heard

[Vaj]

On Nov 4, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Comments interleaved below. --- Vaj wrote: Gillam wrote: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a vig on each transaction? I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you mean.   A "vig" is a vigorish, of fee. I used that slang term  because this thread had formed a mental picture  of a bija deity granting a boon in exchange for  some energy in return. My doctor remarked that the problem with any Indian  meditation was this tit-for-tat exchange. I was  wondering if there was any basis in his remarks. I recall one of the Kaplans accusing Maharishi of sucking energy from his meditators, but dismissed it as a rant. Still, the accusation comes to mind again in the context of this thread. Yeah I thought of that too, but in that case I thought he was supposed to be using the stolen Sri Yantra of Guru Dev for that, which might make for a great made-for-TV movie, but is probably just something actually cooked up by some disgruntled old SBS disciples. The TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO misinformation. The TM   mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, not take it away. Thanks for once again making the distinction, and yes,  more energy has been my experience. But also, some people do get negative side effects and if so, they need to learn to be mature enough to regulate their own practice, observe their own condition and apply remedies--even if that might mean TM is not for them. A tantric might also argue that before you use such a mantra, you have   to "prepare the field" by a process called bhuta-shuddhi or   purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa without it can   exacerbate imbalances. Yeah, and driving to the store can get you killed. I'm  glad MMY didn't insist I do pranayam for six months  before I could learn to meditate, which was the case  for a neighbor doing some other practice. I'd be interested to hear how that went for him. There is a school of belief that says nadi purification takes about six months. But no what I'm pointing out, if the elements are balanced, you will experience less issues with imbalances arising from your meditation practice: any meditation practice. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___