How judgmental of you. All the religions of the world (and 
intelligent atheists), say that you can't judge a book by its cover. 
Many purusha are as suited at long-term purusha life as anyone. When 
people say things like "many westerners....not as good as 
easterners", I just cringe.

OffWorld


--- In [email protected], "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Some of the purusha guys aren't right for the program.  Probably 
the circlejerkers and horndogs. They got off the program and then 
are supposed to round. Talk about feeling a little vampirized. They 
have no women around to balance them in general of course they're 
gonna look like wasted bachelors. Few Westerners are really ready 
for a purusha lifestyle.  
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Vaj 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:22 AM
>   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three things I learned 
meditating
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         Here's a question for those of you versed in such
> 
>         things: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a
> 
>         vig on each transaction?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you 
> 
>       mean.  
> 
>       The TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO 
misinformation. The 
> 
>     TM  
> 
>      mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, not take it 
> 
>       away.  
> 
>       But then again, there is the bija mantra, the seed mantra, 
and 
> 
>       the  
> 
>       dharani, or full chain of mantra which includes the bija. 
Some 
> 
>       have  
> 
>       argued since the full dharani is not given, this creates 
> 
>       imbalance. A  
> 
>       tantric might also argue that before you use such a mantra, 
you 
> 
>       have  
> 
>       to "prepare the field" by a process called bhuta-shuddhi or  
> 
>       purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa without it 
can  
> 
>       exacerbate imbalances.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     There is some truth to this explaination.  You get a bija 
mantra 
> 
>     with TM to start with and then may be build a more complete 
vedic 
> 
>     mantra or full dharani mantra with the TM advanced techniques 
as you 
> 
>     get them.  Kind of expensive by the time you get the full 
balance if 
> 
>     you get them.
> 
> 
> 
>   Or you can simply get it from another teacher and continue on, 
uninterrupted in your practice. I received mine from Amma and also 
the yogi Harish Johari. Harish taught me how to draw and paint the 
yantra of my Ishta and then hooked me up with one of his students 
who had the yantra installed in his temple.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental 
and 
> 
>     physical trouble from being on MD.  Common maladies evidently 
on the 
> 
>     MD program.  Mental problems and bad health.  Energetic entity 
> 
>     possession too in the experiences. 
> 
> 
> 
>   I do wonder about this. What types of mental problems? Can you 
be more specific? I know from my own experience, I went to visit THP 
at the end of the 80's in the Catskills. Along with me was my wife 
and a friend is also extremely psychic. They were both shocked and 
appalled by the energetic depletion they saw on these guys. Now they 
had come along with us expecting to see these advanced yogis, 
instead they said they looked like they had been repeatedly and 
continuously vampirized; sickly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     They do not have a way of talking about it within MD for fear 
of 
> 
>     ejection/rejection so some MD can be in pretty bad shape, but 
are 
> 
>     told the only way to get enlightened is to be on the program 
in MD.  
> 
>     There is a lot of peer pressure there between the 'devotion' 
of 
> 
>     being accepted there and when your days are split mostly 
between 
> 
>     meditating and raising money.  
> 
> 
> 
>   Wow.
>





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