Some of the purusha guys aren't right for the program.  Probably the circlejerkers and horndogs. They got off the program and then are supposed to round. Talk about feeling a little vampirized. They have no women around to balance them in general of course they're gonna look like wasted bachelors. Few Westerners are really ready for a purusha lifestyle. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Vaj
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three things I learned meditating


On Nov 5, 2006, at 7:24 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:


Here's a question for those of you versed in such

things: do vedic traditions say a bija deity demands a

vig on each transaction?


I'm not sure what you mean by "vig" or if misspelt, what you 

mean.  

The TM mantras are NOT Vedic, this is just TMO misinformation. The 

TM  

 mantras are tantric. They should give you energy, not take it 

away.  

But then again, there is the bija mantra, the seed mantra, and 

the  

dharani, or full chain of mantra which includes the bija. Some 

have  

argued since the full dharani is not given, this creates 

imbalance. A  

tantric might also argue that before you use such a mantra, you 

have  

to "prepare the field" by a process called bhuta-shuddhi or  

purification of the elements. Doing mantra japa without it can  

exacerbate imbalances.




There is some truth to this explaination.  You get a bija mantra 

with TM to start with and then may be build a more complete vedic 

mantra or full dharani mantra with the TM advanced techniques as you 

get them.  Kind of expensive by the time you get the full balance if 

you get them.


Or you can simply get it from another teacher and continue on, uninterrupted in your practice. I received mine from Amma and also the yogi Harish Johari. Harish taught me how to draw and paint the yantra of my Ishta and then hooked me up with one of his students who had the yantra installed in his temple.


  We have run in to TM mother divine who have had much mental and 

physical trouble from being on MD.  Common maladies evidently on the 

MD program.  Mental problems and bad health.  Energetic entity 

possession too in the experiences.


I do wonder about this. What types of mental problems? Can you be more specific? I know from my own experience, I went to visit THP at the end of the 80's in the Catskills. Along with me was my wife and a friend is also extremely psychic. They were both shocked and appalled by the energetic depletion they saw on these guys. Now they had come along with us expecting to see these advanced yogis, instead they said they looked like they had been repeatedly and continuously vampirized; sickly.


 


They do not have a way of talking about it within MD for fear of 

ejection/rejection so some MD can be in pretty bad shape, but are 

told the only way to get enlightened is to be on the program in MD.  

There is a lot of peer pressure there between the 'devotion' of 

being accepted there and when your days are split mostly between 

meditating and raising money.  


Wow.

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