--- In [email protected], "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comment below: > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 17, 2006, at 10:46 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > Neither simple nor complex. > > > > > > And you keep claiming that shamatha is the same as TM. Here's > what > > > an apparently > > > famous Shamatha advocate says about shamatha. He, at least, has > the > > > excuse that he > > > never learned TM: > > <gracious snip> > > > > No that's NOT what I claim. I merely said TM is a *form* of > Shamatha. > > That's certainly not to imply that all forms of Shamatha are the > same > > as TM, they are not. > > > > There are literally hundreds of different styles of Shamatha. > > > **End** > > Reading Sparaig's excerpt from the Shamatha teacher, it seemed to me > to be, in essence, a verbose description of what Maharishi was able > to succinctly capture in his teaching of an effortless meditation. > > But even Maharishi described his meditation, in the beginning days of > his mission, as a form of mind control. That conceptual paradigm > was/is a long-established one and, reading that description (of > Shamatha) from the vantage point of a long-time TMer, it seems to be > describing (albeit kind of complicatedly) correct meditation to me. >
Trying to stay awake is "correct meditation" to you?
