--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This brings up a very interesting question: *Would* you > > > > believe it if you saw it with your own eyes? > > > . . . > > > The real issue is that you also said that others in > > > the same room with you did NOT see what you saw... > > > > Note that you dodged the real question. > > > > If you were in a room and saw someone hover, right > > in front of your eyes, and not everyone else in the > > room saw it, would you believe your own experience > > or the "other people?" > > That might be similar to "if you were in a field and saw > a UFO hover, right in front of your eyes, and not everyone > else in the field saw it, would you believe your own > experience or the other people?"
Yes, it would, if it happened multiple times, say several times a month over a decade or more, and if a clear majority of the people present saw it each time, *without* being told that a UFO or anything like it was going to appear. > In the latter case, I would look to see if there are other > explanations. Oh, I have. You have no *idea* how many alternative explanations I have explored over the years. But it comes down to the fact that the Occam's Razor answer is WYSIWYG. What you see is what you get. Some people see nothing, and their world stays safely the same. Others see something, and their world has changed forever. Some of the latter find ways to rationalize away what they saw so *that* their world can stay safely the same. > Question those who saw aand didn't see. Lots of people > "see" UFOs that are not there. Who says they're not there? > Or "if you were in a room and saw jesus talking to krishna, > right in front of your eyes, and not everyone else in the > room saw it, would you believe your own experience or the > other people?" My perception, every time. > Are you positive its not some hallucination or delusion? Nope. But I would believe my perception, every time, given no evidence of hallucination or delusion. > Or if someone else saw that and you didn't. That happened many times. > Do you automatically conclude they are lying and > delusional just because your experience is different? Of course not. But it sounds like you might. You are butting heads with the mystical conundrum, new. *Everyone* who has ever had extraordinary spiritual experiences in history has been in this position -- they have experiences that most of the people around them not only have never had, but don't believe they *can* have. Who ya gonna believe? Well, the players in self realization believed in their experience. You read books about them. Those who believed the bystanders are lost in the dust of history.
