> "Doing program" in a room with siddhas, at its finest, > was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There > really wasn't much to get freaked about. > > I agree with you that some of the freaked-outedness in > Carlos' books was because of him, and
----For me doing program during the taste of utopia was about a seven on the shakti scale with being with very old time Dzogchen Buddhists at KDL in Vermont about the same and one small drubchod or intensive pretty much over the top. Energy moved every which way and then batted down and frapped and then sublimated and put away. Cleaned and stabilized. All the same energy the three in one of freedom motion and stability always anyway without change in essence, merely use.
