--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Amen to that, brother. I actually transecend while
> doing the middle rhythm of SK. Its very funny because
> the mind loses all content other than the foundational
> intent it had right before it transcended/stopped and
> when it becomes active again it has no idea why the
> body is huffing and puffing for a few moments before
> memory kicks in. SK is really quite amazing. A yogic
> cognition by SSRS. 
>

Completely different than TM's transcendental consciousness.

BTW, it's obvious that the researchers on SRS techniques are well-aware that 
what they 
teach, either meditation or breathing, doesn't induce TM-like results. 
Otherwise, they 
wouldn't comment that "had researchers used a idifferent analysis they might 
have found 
something just like we did."

Putting words in other researchers' mouths while acknowledging that you are 
doing so is 
the ultimate  desperate attempt to reconcile unexpected findings. They also 
apparently 
revel in the idea that "bliss" is based on normal happiness mechanisms rather 
than a sign 
of an entirely different mechanism (bliss isn't blissful, except to SRS and 
other normal 
yogic meditation researchers):

http://www.artoflivingresearch.org/pdf/A%20theoretical%20appraisal%20of%20yogic%
20breath.Richard%20Brown.pdf

Travis and colleagues presented data showing that 11 
experienced TM practitioners showed greater theta/alpha 
power during stages three and four sleep compared to nine 
short-term practitioners and 11 non-practitioners. They also 
had increased rapid eye movement density during REM 
periods.40 The subjective experience of "transcending" during 
meditation was marked by low breath frequency, higher 
respiratory sinus arrhythmia amplitudes, higher EEG alpha 
amplitude, and alpha coherence.41 A somewhat different 
analysis of the data might have also shown increased theta 
activity in certain circuits as was found by Aftanas and 
Golocheikine in 16 long-term and 1 short-term meditators 
using the Sahaja yoga meditation.42 Their study, using more 
complex spectral analysis of the EEG showed that blissful 
states during meditation correlated with left anterior frontal 
theta coherence in experienced meditators as well as coherence 
between anterior mid-line frontal areas (like the sensory motor 
cortex) and posterior association areas. These theta waves 
were different from the theta waves observed during normal 
sleep. Travis and Wallace proposed a two-phase model of TM, 
which is adequate to explain both findings.43 They suggested 
that the first phase of meditation involves shutting down 
orbital and basal frontal cortex activity, leading to a quieting 
of mind and body. The second phase maintains the quieter 
levels of function while the emergence of thalamocortical 
generators results in enhanced attention in a state of 
consciousness not associated with processing specific 
perceptual and cognitive content. In what they called their 
attention/intention model, alpha synchrony (I would also say 
theta coherence during bliss or transcendence) indicates a 
state of intention of the mind toward itself (the mind turning 
its attention to itself). Travis and Wallace propose that the 
prefrontal cortex initially activates the nucleus reticularis of 
the thalamus to inhibit specific and non-specific activity in 
thalamocortical circuits. To maintain and deepen the 
meditative state, basal ganglia-thalamocortical circuits feed 
forward to the globus pallidus and then inhibit the 
mesencephalic reticular formation and the medial dorsal 
nuclei of the thalamus. This is relevant to the effect of 
Sudarshan Kriya on enhancing the ease of meditation because 
hyperventilation shuts off the mesencephalic reticular 
formation and stimulates thalamocortical circuits, which 
enhance meditation and wakefulness. 
transcendent experience can be integrated with waking, 
dreaming, and sleeping with long experience in meditation.45 
Although there have been no direct observations of yoga 
masters during blissful states of ecstasy, there is one EEG study 
of 7 famous Chi Kung masters in China that showed an EEG 
alpha activity predominantly in the anterior cortical areas 
with the peak frequency being slower than the normal resting 
state. This was suggested to be a state of increased excitation 
and is consistent with other findings during yoga meditation 
and TM.46 Therefore, I would suggest that continued practice 
in meditation develops the ability to increase activity in the 
activated bands (alpha, beta, gamma) of the EEG and to 
increase dopamine stimulation (figure 2) through the 
mesolimbic reward systems (figure 1), which results in the 
experience of bliss. The seasoned practitioner can experience 
joy despite any sensory input and in any state of 
consciousness. 
Endocrine Changes with Meditation and 
Pranayama 
Endocrine changes have been associated with meditation and 
Sudarshan Kriya. A study of three months practice of 
Sudarshan Kriya resulted in significant reduction in cortisol 
(one measure of stress response system activation in the brain) 
and correlated significantly with decreased depression scores 
over a three-week period.47 Another study of 12 highly trained 
yoga meditators (average 6-1/2 years experience) compared 
with 11 elite runners showed an increase in CRH 
(corticotrophin-releasing hormone) but not endorphins after 
meditation. The 11 elite runners showed the same magnitude 
CRH release after running as the meditators, but the runners 
also released a beta-endorphin not found in the meditators.48 
The hypothalamic pituitary adrenal (HPA) axis is essential in 
the stress response and survival of mammalian species. It is 
abnormally overactivated during biological depression and 
is alternately overactivated and depleted in patients with post- 
traumatic stress disorder. 
There is data suggesting that meditation and probably 
hyperventilation cause release of pituitary hormones (figure1), 
probably through hypothalamic output mediated through 
vagal afferents. The 5-fold increase in vasopressin associated 
with meditation is significant41. There is older evidence that 
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