Indeed. And before I became a teacher I read the Shrimad Bhagavatam (the version sold by Motilal Press) and was advised by the teacher who loaned it to me to be quiet as the TMO didn't like us reading stuff like this. After TTC I also read the Shiva Puranas and some of the Vishnu Puranas. When I became a teacher I expected to:
1) Learn some mantra shastra. Nope we were only taught a formula. 2) Learn the true origins of the meditation technique. Nope and this technique did not come from the Shankaracharya. I would be interested in any Sanskrit texts that describe it though. I would assume that the Vedic Phd people would have learned some of this but from the ones I know they were getting information outside the movement (like on some of the non-TMO astrology seminars I attended). I have since learned mantra shastra from a tantric. I have also learned that TM is just a form of yogic meditation for the masses. There are different forms of these according to various traditions but TM is unique in not using Omkara which is often questioned when I mention it to Indian yogis. Though I don't think TM is dangerous for the majority I do have qualms about some of the people who *did* have problems practicing it or who should have been told to stop the practice. In my tantric tradition Shakti mantras are not for public consumption and other mantras are used for teaching meditation. Some books on ayurveda warn about the use of Shakti mantras as they can be too heating. Indeed remember that many yogis in India use herbs and techniques to counterbalance the heating. Cold water on the forehead and sandalwood paste are two well known ones. And I would definitely argue there would have been no need to "outsource" practices as they could have just as easily been taught to westerners. llundrub wrote: > I think if Vaj way selling something and you were persuaded to buy you might > ask for your money back. But since nothing has been lost, therefore no > malicious intent to defraud could be really interpreted. > > And if you gained anything at all in the process that put MMY or TM in some > perspective then you in fact gained, even if it's just in finding an apt > villain for pumping yourself up. > > Often we humans are no more than the sum of our prejudices. > > As for Buddhist Fundamentalists those are often seen in the Theravadin > Schools and yes, there are some in the Vajrayana but they are by far hugely > eclectic. Since Buddhism is not seeking to convert it really does not also > have fundamentalism but I wouldn't expect silly TMers to have studied that. > I once asked a TM Governor if he had ever read the Lakshmi Tantra and he > said "What's That?" > > Ha ha, if someone is a sincere truth seeker then they sincerely uphold and > seek the truth even at loss to their own view. TM Governors are some of the > most limited seekers ever. They came they saw they conquered and no > transformation. Of course some are also totally awesome. If Vaj had been my > Governor I would be proud. Though I'm proud of who I had. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj is a fraud > > > >> Vaj is a fraud. >> >> He has no knowledge whatsoever about what he is writing. No knowledge >> of TM, the TM-Sidhis or the mechanics of structuring higher states of >> consciousness with Transcendental Meditation. >> >> Unfortunally for him, he is just a silly Budhist fundamentalist. >> >> His motivation is to demonalize TM and Maharishi whatever the costs to >> his evolution. >> >> >> >> To subscribe, send a message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Or go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ >> and click 'Join This Group!' >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> > > >
