--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], kaladevi93 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > There are many TM TBers here. If you think otherwise, you're > > > either blind, stupid or insane. > > > > Or, you are so much one yourself that you cannot > > see the phenomenon you are an integral part of. > > > > If you honestly, truly believe that TM is the > > "best" or the "most effective" technique of > > meditation on the planet, and you have never > > practiced another one except out of a book, you > > are a TB. If you honestly, truly believe that > > TM is "unique," and you have never practiced > > another technique except out of a book, you > > are a TB. > > > > The amazing thing is to see the TBs *deny* that > > they *are* True Believers, while holding to > > positions like, "TM is better and more effective > > than any other technique of meditation on the > > planet," when they have *never really studied > > any others*. *Anyone* except a TB can see that > > and identify it as True Believerism. *Only* a TB > > could say such a thing and deny that they are one. > > > > I mean, it's equivalent to saying, "I don't *need* > > to practice any other technique to know the "facts" > > about it, and that TM is superior. *What I have been > > told* about it by Maharishi is all that I need to > > know to make that assessment. > > > > Yeah, right. > > It doesn't really matter much whether someone is a TB of TM, or not. > If they practice TM and find it effective, why try to get them to > try something else?
NO ONE is trying to get anyone to do something else. That's all in the heads of the people for whom hear- ing about another path is considered a challenge to the one they're currently on. > If they are doing TM and think it is the > greatest thing since sliced bread, so what? I completely agree. What I find offensive is when such people, IN TOTAL IGNORANCE, claim that their path is superior to all others, paths *that they have never tried*. (And that they never will because either they're too afraid to, or too proud to ever "stoop to that level.") That's a level of fanaticism and lack of humility that is pretty astounding in the larger spiritual smorgasbord. You would *never* find such a stance in most traditions. Never. The issue here on FFL is that a number of people have had experiences of more than one spiritual tradition and set of techniques. And then there are the people who have only had the experience of *one* tradition and set of techniques. The former group usually comes down on the side of "Techniques are different and what is right for one person is not necessarily right or optimal for another." Whereas those who have only done TM tend to follow the TM dogma and claim that *only* TM can possibly be considered the "best" technique or tradition in the world. The thing some of us are trying to do here is *not* to convince TMers to "jump ship." What we're trying to do is point out that the TM stance of being "the best" is considered by the greater spiritual community as being so lowvibe and so tacky that only the lowest scum of society would ever even *conceive* of their tradition being "the best." Some here are strong TMers who do *not* hold to this sick and twisted dogma of the TM movement. But there are others who do, and they tend to become outraged when the *obvious* stupidity of their stance is pointed out. *They* are the TBs.
