Peter wrote:
> --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Peter wrote:
>>
>>> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> --- In [email protected], Peter
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> going to jump all over your post of her writings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking
>>>>>
>> state
>>
>>>>> concept of CC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Who can say who is enlightened?
>>>>
>>>> However, my own OPINION is that people can
>>>>
>> mistake
>>
>>>> pathological witnessing for CC and visa
>>>> versa.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How would you define pathological witnessing? I
>>>
>> assume
>>
>>> you mean the experience of derealization. The
>>> difference between the two is that in
>>>
>> derealization
>>
>>> there is a "me" that is experienced as
>>>
>> disconnected
>>
>>> and distant from experiencing: "I seem to be a
>>>
>> million
>>
>>> miles away." But in CC there is no self or "me"
>>>
>> that
>>
>>> is localized to be either far away or close.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> How would you function if you cannot localize enough
>> to deal with paying
>> your bills or driving a car?
>>
>
> You're confounding consciousness with mind. Two
> entirely different things in realization but not in
> waking state. The mind pays the bills and drives the
> car, not consciousness. The mind is a siddhi of
> consciousness.
>
No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly the mind is
"contained" in consciousness but what happens if the local tax collector
calls you and says "Peter, you own $5,000 in back taxes and have to pay
up by the end of the month or we'll take your house." Do you remain
"meless" or does "the Peter and the tax bill" suddenly become the center
of focus? My bet it is the latter. :)