--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >
> > Peter wrote:
> > > --- sparaig <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >> --- In [email protected], Peter
> > >> <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> > >>>       
> > >> is
> > >>     
> > >>> going to jump all over your post of her writings
> > >>>       
> > >> and
> > >>     
> > >>> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
> > >>> concept of CC.
> > >>>
> > >>>       
> > >> Who can say who is enlightened?
> > >>
> > >> However, my own OPINION is that people can mistake
> > >> pathological witnessing for CC and visa 
> > >> versa.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > How would you define pathological witnessing? I assume
> > > you mean the experience of derealization. The
> > > difference between the two is that in derealization
> > > there is a "me" that is experienced as disconnected
> > > and distant from experiencing: "I seem to be a million
> > > miles away." But in CC there is no self or "me" that
> > > is localized to be either far away or close.
> > >
> > >   
> > How would you function if you cannot localize enough to deal with 
> paying 
> > your bills or driving a car?
> >
> From the Susan Seagal book: "Buddhism, she found, explained this by 
> describing the skandhas or 'aggregates' as personality functions 
> which remain when one is empty of the person or the 'me'. The five 
> skandhas include form, feelings, perceptions, thoughts and 
> consciousness. Their interaction creates the illusion of self."
>

So, these no longer interact? Or does one or more cease to exist ufficiently 
that the rest 
can't integrate into a "self?'

No aspect of a person goes away in CC, according to theory, research and my own 
experience. There is simply a constant that becomes identified as "Self" 
because the rest 
are ephemeral while It is not.

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