--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Peter wrote:
> > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >> --- In [email protected], Peter
> > >> <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how
> everyone
> > >>>       
> > >> is
> > >>     
> > >>> going to jump all over your post of her
> writings
> > >>>       
> > >> and
> > >>     
> > >>> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking
> state
> > >>> concept of CC.
> > >>>
> > >>>       
> > >> Who can say who is enlightened?
> > >>
> > >> However, my own OPINION is that people can
> mistake
> > >> pathological witnessing for CC and visa 
> > >> versa.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > How would you define pathological witnessing? I
> assume
> > > you mean the experience of derealization. The
> > > difference between the two is that in
> derealization
> > > there is a "me" that is experienced as
> disconnected
> > > and distant from experiencing: "I seem to be a
> million
> > > miles away." But in CC there is no self or "me"
> that
> > > is localized to be either far away or close.
> > >
> > >   
> > How would you function if you cannot localize
> enough to deal with 
> paying 
> > your bills or driving a car?
> >
> From the Susan Seagal book: "Buddhism, she found,
> explained this by 
> describing the skandhas or 'aggregates' as
> personality functions 
> which remain when one is empty of the person or the
> 'me'. The five 
> skandhas include form, feelings, perceptions,
> thoughts and 
> consciousness. Their interaction creates the
> illusion of self."

Yes. One of the most unusual things about realization
is that nothing is happening. All happening is
"outside" of Self. And all happening is just thought
too. 


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