--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter wrote:
> > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> --- In [email protected], Peter
> >> <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone
> >>>       
> >> is
> >>     
> >>> going to jump all over your post of her writings
> >>>       
> >> and
> >>     
> >>> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
> >>> concept of CC.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> Who can say who is enlightened?
> >>
> >> However, my own OPINION is that people can mistake
> >> pathological witnessing for CC and visa 
> >> versa.
> >>     
> >
> > How would you define pathological witnessing? I assume
> > you mean the experience of derealization. The
> > difference between the two is that in derealization
> > there is a "me" that is experienced as disconnected
> > and distant from experiencing: "I seem to be a million
> > miles away." But in CC there is no self or "me" that
> > is localized to be either far away or close.
> >
> >   
> How would you function if you cannot localize enough to deal with 
paying 
> your bills or driving a car?
>
>From the Susan Seagal book: "Buddhism, she found, explained this by 
describing the skandhas or 'aggregates' as personality functions 
which remain when one is empty of the person or the 'me'. The five 
skandhas include form, feelings, perceptions, thoughts and 
consciousness. Their interaction creates the illusion of self." 

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