--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter wrote: > > --- Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Peter wrote: > >> > >>> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> --- In [email protected], Peter > >>>> <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> is > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> going to jump all over your post of her writings > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> dismiss it because it won't fit their waking > >>>>> > >> state > >> > >>>>> concept of CC. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Who can say who is enlightened? > >>>> > >>>> However, my own OPINION is that people can > >>>> > >> mistake > >> > >>>> pathological witnessing for CC and visa > >>>> versa. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> How would you define pathological witnessing? I > >>> > >> assume > >> > >>> you mean the experience of derealization. The > >>> difference between the two is that in > >>> > >> derealization > >> > >>> there is a "me" that is experienced as > >>> > >> disconnected > >> > >>> and distant from experiencing: "I seem to be a > >>> > >> million > >> > >>> miles away." But in CC there is no self or "me" > >>> > >> that > >> > >>> is localized to be either far away or close. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> How would you function if you cannot localize enough > >> to deal with paying > >> your bills or driving a car? > >> > > > > You're confounding consciousness with mind. Two > > entirely different things in realization but not in > > waking state. The mind pays the bills and drives the > > car, not consciousness. The mind is a siddhi of > > consciousness. > > > No you don't understand what I'm saying. Certainly the mind is > "contained" in consciousness but what happens if the local tax collector > calls you and says "Peter, you own $5,000 in back taxes and have to pay > up by the end of the month or we'll take your house." Do you remain > "meless" or does "the Peter and the tax bill" suddenly become the center > of focus? My bet it is the latter. :) >
i think in different ways you guys saying the same thing ...
