On Dec 3, 2006, at 7:54 PM, sparaig wrote:
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--- In [email protected], Peter <drpetersutphen@>
wrote:
Great description of pure CC. Watch how everyone is
going to jump all over your post of her writings and
dismiss it because it won't fit their waking state
concept of CC.
Who can say who is enlightened?
What does that have to do with what Peter is
suggesting?
The fact that she had serious neurological symptoms and a severe
(deadly) disorder of the
brain suggests that it may have been pathological and not the real
thing.
So your waking state concept of CC is that you never
get sick?
No. But CC due/caused by pathological dysfunction probably is NOT
the same as what
MMY calls CC. Of course, the question is: did the pathology cause
the CC-sounding
experience or was it merely a coinicidence....?
I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on
other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early stages
of a brain tumor experienced-thru-the-lens-of-an-SCI-and-advanced-
lecture-person? In other words, is this just another "hey look at me
and enlightened" and oh well it just happens to specifically fit into
everything I was taught? Oh and by the way, I died suddenly of a
brain tumor that probably festered long before I died (real dangerous
pitfalls for anyone who ignores allopathic medical advice in TB favor
of "Ayurveda" or some other 'holistic panacea').
I don't mean this to sound controversial, I'm just not familiar
enough (nor interested enough) with Ms. Segall and her life.
It's also interesting to me that for many practicing Jews, taking the
mantra of an Indian Pagan Goddess would be a major violation of a
very primary Jewish mitzah, "take no other Gods before me". If you
were told as a child growing up this and this festered in the back of
your subconscious mind, would that not be a like a kind of mind-
virus? It's a very basic conflict in your subconscious programming.
It's just one of the things I wonder could happen from not being told
the truth about what kind of meditation they are being instructed in.
It's also very interesting that TMer descriptions of CC all fall way
short of the turiyatita traditional descriptions.
On the TMers dying theme, I also found of interest a recent post on
the Gilpin book from the ever-weird Guruphilia blog:
anonymous said...
An old friend of mine (an ex-TM teacher) lives in Fairfield and does
not attend the TM functions (at their request, because he openly
hosted, Oh No!, other gurus at his home when they passed through
Fairfield. He enjoys the drama when they go through town. He still
thinks TM is good, however. He recently told me that among those
living there, many of the old-time TM teachers have turned to drugs
and alcohol. He said that many are addicted to pain killers or are
drunkards. He told me this very matter of factly, like it was normal
in any community in the US to have a large number of strung out
people, but I found it very strange, given MMY's teachings.
I know that when I visited him in Fairfield a few years ago and went
to see some Guru-passing-through type who was a "healer" of some
kind, there was a huge group of TMers who were active in the domes,
visiting the same guy, saying "shhh don't say you saw me here".....
Many many many of them had cancer and other horrible diseases like
debilitating arthritis. Most of them were between 25-50 years old.
The "healer", who happened to be from India, said he had never seen
so much disease in such a small, condensed population in his life.
What gives with the TM "research?" Is it all faked or what?
I practiced TM for awhile and don't think it harmed me. But what
happened to all those people in Fairfield Iowa? And what in the world
is this about Princes and Rajas???
12/03/2006 7:27 AM
