--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> I haven't read a lot of her stuff, but she is quoted here and on
> other lists every now and then. My question is, is this early
stages
> of a brain tumor experienced-thru-the-lens-of-an-SCI-and-advanced-
> lecture-person? In other words, is this just another "hey look at
me
> and enlightened" and oh well it just happens to specifically fit
into
> everything I was taught? Oh and by the way, I died suddenly of a
> brain tumor that probably festered long before I died (real
dangerous
> pitfalls for anyone who ignores allopathic medical advice in TB
favor
> of "Ayurveda" or some other 'holistic panacea').
>
> I don't mean this to sound controversial, I'm just not familiar
> enough (nor interested enough) with Ms. Segall and her life.
>
> It's also interesting to me that for many practicing Jews, taking
the
> mantra of an Indian Pagan Goddess would be a major violation of a
> very primary Jewish mitzah, "take no other Gods before me". If
you
> were told as a child growing up this and this festered in the back
of
> your subconscious mind, would that not be a like a kind of mind-
> virus? It's a very basic conflict in your subconscious
programming.
> It's just one of the things I wonder could happen from not being
told
> the truth about what kind of meditation they are being instructed
in.
>
> It's also very interesting that TMer descriptions of CC all fall
way
> short of the turiyatita traditional descriptions.
>
> On the TMers dying theme, I also found of interest a recent post
on
> the Gilpin book from the ever-weird Guruphilia blog:
>
> anonymous said...
> An old friend of mine (an ex-TM teacher) lives in Fairfield and
does
> not attend the TM functions (at their request, because he openly
> hosted, Oh No!, other gurus at his home when they passed through
> Fairfield. He enjoys the drama when they go through town. He
still
> thinks TM is good, however. He recently told me that among those
> living there, many of the old-time TM teachers have turned to
drugs
> and alcohol. He said that many are addicted to pain killers or
are
> drunkards. He told me this very matter of factly, like it was
normal
> in any community in the US to have a large number of strung out
> people, but I found it very strange, given MMY's teachings.
>
> I know that when I visited him in Fairfield a few years ago and
went
> to see some Guru-passing-through type who was a "healer" of some
> kind, there was a huge group of TMers who were active in the
domes,
> visiting the same guy, saying "shhh don't say you saw me
here".....
> Many many many of them had cancer and other horrible diseases
like
> debilitating arthritis. Most of them were between 25-50 years
old.
> The "healer", who happened to be from India, said he had never
seen
> so much disease in such a small, condensed population in his life.
>
> What gives with the TM "research?" Is it all faked or what?
>
> I practiced TM for awhile and don't think it harmed me. But what
> happened to all those people in Fairfield Iowa? And what in the
world
> is this about Princes and Rajas???
>
> 12/03/2006 7:27 AM
>
I am *so* relieved you were able to find a box big enough for all of
this to fit so neatly into Vaj! :-)
