--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 12:15 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@>  
> > wrote:
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> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, exactly my point. It's mishra: mixed. Not pure.
> >>
> >> Vyaasa doesn't seem to agree with you:
> >>
> >
> >> yathaa yathaa saMyamaH sthirapado bhavati tathaa tatheshvara-
> >> prasaadaat *samaadhi-prajñaa ***VISHAARADII*** bhavati*
> >>
> >
> > The more (yathaa yathaa) saMyama becomes (bhavati) firmly rooted
> > (sthirapado: sandhi for sthirapadaH) the more (tathaa tathaa;
> > tatheshvara...: sandhi for tathaa + iishvara) by the divine
> > grace (iishvara-prasaadaat) samaadhi-consciousness(?) (samaadhi-
> > prajñaa) becomes (bhavati) clear(?) (vishaaradii: feminine form
> > of 'vishaarada', agreeing with the feminine noun 'prajñaa').
> >
> >  yathA [...]        [EMAIL PROTECTED]@tathA}*** or %{evaI74va} , `" in
> > whatever manner "' , -`" in that manner "' , `" according as "' or `"
> > in proportion as "' , -`" so "' , `" by how much the more'-`" by so
> > much "' , `"*** the more'-`" the more *** ;
> >
> >  sthirapada         mf(%{A})n. firmly rooted
> >
> > bhavati  (it) becomes
> >
> > IzvaraprasAda       m. divine grace.
> >
> > samaadhi-prajñaa  samaadhi-consciousness?
> >
> > vizArada    mf(%{A})n. experienced , skilled or proficient in ,
> > conversant with (loc. or comp. ; %{-tva} n. Pan5cad.) Mn. MBh. &c. ;
> > learned , wise W. ; clever (as a speech) BhP. ; ***of a clear or
> > serene mind*** Lalit. [...]
> 
> Samyama's good side is that it helps fine-tune and hone our ability  
> to discriminate finer aspects of awareness, it's downside is that if  
> it is used for siddhis (e.g. yogic flying) we become more outward,  
> more materialistic and fooled by the power of our own delusions (maya- 
> shakti). So the sages say. Thus a method is given which does not  
> necessitate using samyama and thus avoids it's pitfalls.
>

So some sages say. Others say differently.

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