--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > <snip> > > > > I think we need to be realistic here. If we're talking about a > > > > legitimate master, it definitely would be harmful in terms of > > > > planetary evolution to disparage such a master. > > > > > > > > Faux-masters and avatards are a different thing altogether. > > > > > > One wonders about the karma of those who pretend > > > to be able to tell the difference, and then, on the > > > basis of that faux expertise, proceed to bash a > > > teacher and tell lies about him out of pure spite. > > > > The only bad karma coming from disparaging a master is the > > karma already evident from those doing this- that they have > > no mechanism within their egoic dream to distiguish a true > > master from a fraud. > > > > This joker Vaj is a prime example, puffed up like a peacock, > > and spouting rubbish. No offense to the peacock... > > The following was part of an email exchange > that was forwarded here about a month ago by Rick. > Neither the email, its excellent subject matter, > or the following quote provoked a word of comment > on FFL. One person asked which Dave the author of > the email was, but that was it. I "replay" the > quote again, seeing if it gets more comment > when presented more in context:
Comment: One wonders whether Guru Dev would have made a distinction between sincere, well-meaning criticism and the kind of dishonest, vengeful bullshit Vaj and you post. > "Correctly, correctly but the idea behind this is > that one shall not think badly of his master. But > now I would suggest that you think about it for a > moment, whether it is in principle harmful to be > criticized or whether it can be even helpful? > > The scriptures even say that criticism helps the > earnest seeker and even the wise, to wash off their > sins and that in reality criticism is a support for > their spiritual development. > > Many saints therefore put their loudest critics on > the same level with their most devoted supporters. > > The supporters serve the mahatmas and admire them > but they also take part in the wealth of their > spiritual strengths; the critics however take nothing > for themselves, they wash only the sins away. > > We should be really very grateful for the agreeable > service their criticism does and therefore should not > try to suffocate it." > > -- Guru Dev >
