--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > Usually women confide in each other, not with men, 
> > when they are molested or have affairs.
> 
> I would say that it depends upon the woman
> and on the man in question. I have been the
> confidant for quite a few women who have been
> in the position of sleeping with or being
> propositioned by their spiritual teacher. If
> you haven't, you might listen up and learn
> a little something.
> 
> It's not easy. It's often mind-shattering and
> life-shattering. It's an experience that is all
> too often Shakespearean in its ability to take
> the student involved to extremes of emotional
> and spiritual crisis. 
> 
> It's *not* Just Another Male-Female Relationship.
> In terms of the imbalance of power in the equation,
> it's more like the President of a corporation 
> hitting on his secretary than it is Dick And Jane
> Find Love In The Ashram. In terms of violation of
> trust issues, it's more like discovering that your
> father wants to get into your pants than it is
> discovering that the pizza guy gives you free Coke
> because *he* wants to get into your pants. It's
> *heavy*. 
> 
> I've talked to women who were married when their
> teacher hit on them. And who subsequently were
> divorced and spent years in therapy. I've talked
> to women who cheated on their committed-relation-
> ship boyfriends with their spiritual teacher, and
> had to live with the guilt of lying to the boyfriend,
> because the teacher told them to. It's not a pretty
> scene. And the *worst* thing I can report from my
> conversations with such women is that many of 
> them have turned their back on spiritual practice
> forever as a result of the power differential being 
> abused and their trust being violated by a supposed
> spiritual teacher.
> 
> If no woman has ever talked to you about this stuff,
> don't be so quick to claim it's because they only
> talk about it to other women. They talk to anyone
> whom they think will really listen.
>

So, in the case of MMY's secretaries, you think they would talk to the guy who 
"procurred" 
them for him?


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