--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > . . . [Peter wrote:] > > > Actually, it just might be quite entertaining to see the > > > guy talk himself out of that corner :-) > > [I wrote:] > > I imagine there are various word games he can > > play, but they'll look awfully cute beside his > > accusations that *Lawson* was playing word games. > > > > > More important, however, is the fact that being and acting in > > > the capacity of journalist, Andrew Skolnick is de facto bound > > > by a set of minimum ethical requirements it is not in his > > > interest that people think he has violated. > > > > If the trial record containing the incriminating > > language can be tightly documented, perhaps it > > and his relevant posts could be reproduced-- > > without comment--on various journalism forums. > > > > I wonder if the National Association of Science > > Writers has an appropriate public forum... > > > > > > > http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?id=387 > > > http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp > > > > > > I suppose the guy also can be sued > > It's...what...eight years later now? > > And Andrew Skolnick, the non-meditator, has moved > on and wisely doesn't even THINK about TM and TMers > any more
Uh, Barry, it seems you haven't been paying attention. Skolnick has been actively working to turn the Wikipedia entry on TM into a Skeptical Inquirer-type "expose." His participation in the group editing process is the only reason this came up in the first place. Lawson's made several posts about what's been happening over at Wikipedia, but you appear to have missed them all. , especially about those few insane TMers > who once obsessed on him and did everything they > could to try to destroy him and his reputation > because he wrote a few things they didn't like > about Deepak Chopra in a medical journal. Hilarious. Barry was very much present during a good part of Skolnick's tenure on alt.m.t. Unless he's managed to do a memory wipe of those years, he knows how far from the truth his description above is. In fact, Barry was an active participant himself in attacking Skolnick for his chronic and malicious dishonesty. (Not only that, Barry was one of Skolnick's favorite targets.) It wasn't just a matter, of course, of Skolnick having written a few things we didn't like about Chopra. It was that Skolnick wrote a documentably deceptive "expose" of the entire movement that maliciously attacked many of the people in it. > And the same amount of time later, those *same* pro- > ponents of meditation, the thing that is supposed > to free them from attachment and make their lives > bliss, are *still* obsessing on Skolnick and rubbing > their cyberhands together with glee as they plot > how to destroy him and his reputation. Actually, what we're gleeful about is the revelation that Skolnick *did*, in fact, lie through his teeth about the issue of whether there was a settlement in the court case, as we always suspected he had. Don't know about Peter, but I'm just having fun fantasizing about what we might do with this information. Skolnick would almost certainly sue us if we tried to follow through, so I'm not about to risk it. And Lawson has explicitly said he doesn't think it's worth it. Somehow you managed to miss that too. The only > thing that has changed for them in all these years > is now they try equally hard to destroy Chopra and > *his* reputation as well. Uh, no, that's not true either. We grouse about Chopra, but we haven't even been *fantasizing* about destroying him and his reputation. In fact, whenever Skolnick's article trashing him has come up, we've defended him. > Sure speaks volumes about the value of TM, eh? What you've written above speaks volumes about your memory and/or your honesty, but most clearly about *your* obsession with Lawson and me.
