--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> New morning was talking about drugs earlier as a way to temporarily 
> alleviate suffering, with the caveat that if we were to use them as 
> a constant solution, we'd end up like Elvis or Rush Limbaugh (I'm 
> paraphrasing here...). So learning to not suffer is just that, a 
> learning process. Not a solution in a bottle, or a mantra by itself, 
> or just thinking different thoughts, but an entirely new, integrated 
> approach, where we transform ourselves in order to in effect live in 
> a different world. One just as challenging and comprehensive as that 
> in which we would suffer, but through our hard won skill, 
> perspective and capacity, the suffering is no longer present.

Explaininmg my thought a bit better, and it is not inconsistent with
what you write here, what I was suggesting is that better
neurotransmitter (NT) / receptor (R), and uptake mechanisms,
particulalrly for dopamine, seratonin, GABA, noraepi, and the
endorphin receptor complex   ARE a large part, if not the whole part
of happiness. At least relative happiness all the way through the
ananda kosha. (how such neurotransmittors relate to polishing the
reflector of PC is a broader and interesting issue). 

I suggested drugs as an example of temporary means of achieving
"better", aka happier, such neurotransmittor/receptor states. The
larger question is how to culture and create such NT/R states without
drugs. Or via via better supplements than are now available -- perhaps 
hidden AV rayasanas, soma, etc. 

Even Patanjali said IT could be achieved via drugs. As did Maharishi
at Humboldt 70. The caveat is that they are not referring to current
drugs. Still bliss in a pill -- time-released I hope, or permanent IV,
is possible. 

Or perhaps full hatha yoga, pranayams etc are such a way to culture
such. Or Tai Chi.  Or perhaps they culture something else which also
brings on the bliss.

 



 



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