I started TM because of drugs. I read Robert DeRope's "The Master Game," in which I found the concept that drugs could give reasonable approximations of higher spirituality, and additionally that drugs deplete one's spiritual resources in doing so. He said drugs were cheating, but could be highly motivating in that if one could gain a momentary viewpoint, one might then do the decades of work it would take to culture one's nervous system to naturally produce that viewpoint.
My metaphor for it was: if I spend every dime I have on a very expensive wristwatch, I might know what it's like for a moment to be very wealthy, but later I'll have to hock the watch to buy a burger. These days, everything is a drug, eh? Even a few words posted here could send one of us or all of us into a frenzy of some sort, right? THAT'S POWER! That's an injection! And speaking of which, ain't today a very fine fine posting day here? I am blown away with the stellar clarity some of youse folks gots. Thank you all for the righteous trip -- and it's totally legal! Didn't even have to score a dime bag; just had to read, and your words sent me sailing like a paper airplane across a very large room. How silent I'm gliding. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > > > New morning was talking about drugs earlier as a way to temporarily > > alleviate suffering, with the caveat that if we were to use them as > > a constant solution, we'd end up like Elvis or Rush Limbaugh (I'm > > paraphrasing here...). So learning to not suffer is just that, a > > learning process. Not a solution in a bottle, or a mantra by itself, > > or just thinking different thoughts, but an entirely new, integrated > > approach, where we transform ourselves in order to in effect live in > > a different world. One just as challenging and comprehensive as that > > in which we would suffer, but through our hard won skill, > > perspective and capacity, the suffering is no longer present. > > Explaininmg my thought a bit better, and it is not inconsistent with > what you write here, what I was suggesting is that better > neurotransmitter (NT) / receptor (R), and uptake mechanisms, > particulalrly for dopamine, seratonin, GABA, noraepi, and the > endorphin receptor complex ARE a large part, if not the whole part > of happiness. At least relative happiness all the way through the > ananda kosha. (how such neurotransmittors relate to polishing the > reflector of PC is a broader and interesting issue). > > I suggested drugs as an example of temporary means of achieving > "better", aka happier, such neurotransmittor/receptor states. The > larger question is how to culture and create such NT/R states without > drugs. Or via via better supplements than are now available -- perhaps > hidden AV rayasanas, soma, etc. > > Even Patanjali said IT could be achieved via drugs. As did Maharishi > at Humboldt 70. The caveat is that they are not referring to current > drugs. Still bliss in a pill -- time-released I hope, or permanent IV, > is possible. > > Or perhaps full hatha yoga, pranayams etc are such a way to culture > such. Or Tai Chi. Or perhaps they culture something else which also > brings on the bliss. >
