My point is that you don't know if anyone else is "effortlessly transcending" or not, you can't know. So claims that TM is the "best" or that MMY is doing something unique for the spiritual welfare of the world are based on hubris and puffery.
People from all different systems love their practices and sing their praises. People who gain altered states from self-hypnosis report benefits in their lives. Maybe all these practices are wonderful. Perhaps all the good people closing their eyes with their spiritual practice do the same thing or experience the same states. Maybe they are different states but have the same positive effect on the world. Maybe none of it has any effect on the world at all. But none has proven to be the "best" or most important for mankind. That is a self important fantasy promoted by the endlessly ambitious guy who wanted his brand to dominate in the market. He failed. "Effortlessly transcending" is a proprietary concept of MMY's system. No one knows if this is important or not. He created the distinction and then proclaimed it as important. Most of the people who started TM have dropped it. I know this because I ran a campaign in '85 to call the 10,000 meditators who had been initiated in the DC center. Very few had continued the practice. So perhaps the meditations using lots of effort are the ones to bet on for real results and people sticking to a long term practice. Who know? So if you dig TM, good for you, enjoy it. But any claim that TM is the toppermost of the poppermost is going to get the Raja raspberry from me. Altered states produced my meditations and hypnosis will always fascinate me. I'm glad so many people are putting in the time to see where it all leads. A little open mindedness between groups would probably speed our knowledge growth up a bit, but if I know hairless apes, that is not an option. Humans love to be part of a "special" group. Even if it is just a product of their own, or their teacher's, imagination. --- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis wrote: > > For all we know any one of the many spiritual movements > > around the world could be popping out people in UC like > > a Chinese sweatshop filling a Wallmart order. > > > Maybe so, Curtis, but can you cite any other spiritual > movements or teachers that can teach a person how to > effortlessly transcend? I'd be interested in knowing > more about their techniques if you know of any. >
