--- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Can someone please tell me why I am bored stiff by Maharishi's > > > > speeches? This applies to his writings, as well. > > > > > > > > And please take me in context: I am a 34-year practioner of the > > TM > > > > Program and think it's the best thing since sliced bread. But I > > > > cannot for the life of me sit through one of his lectures and > > not > > > > have my mind go off in a million directions...OUT OF SHEER > > BOREDOM. > > > > I find him uninspiring, repetitive, and, sorry to say, phony. I > > use > > > > this last expression "phony" because every other day some new > > GREAT, > > > > BIG THING is being announced by him. Like the boy who cried > > wolf, I > > > > simply cannot buy into any new pronouncement he makes. > > > > > > > > > I totally agree with you. I just can't figure out what the hell > > > happened to him - or what is wrong with him. In my view he started > > > acting like that in the early 1970's. My wife can't stand him. > > Charlie > > > Lutes once told me that he [Maharishi] has "taken a left turn away > > > from God." > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > If Charlie Lutes said that it is just foolishness-- Had I heard him > > today my question would have been, "How does one so perfectly > > attuned with the Divine turn away from his own nature?". > > > I don't agree that Maharishi is "so perfectly attuned with the > Divine." I believe that Maharishi is very advanced and has some > spiritual 'powers'. But I don't think he's tuned to the Divine such > that he's immune from doing wrong [adharmic] things.
It is my experience that anyone who is "very advanced" will not act adharmically, and do wrong. We apparently differ here. I do not consider anyone who is still a seeker very advanced. It is my direct experience that Maharishi is no longer a seeker.:-) > > Important to realize that Maharishi always has in his heart to start > > people meditating, > > > You could have fooled me. Some of the decisions he's made have > accomplished just the opposite. A clear, gross example was his banning > of initiations in Great Britain. > > Some of his decisions about closing TM Centers and some of the bizarre > projects he's promoted and abandoned have left the public in a state > of aversion, to say the least. The King Tony stuff is just nuts in my > view. > > Hell, I was a gung ho TM initiator for years, but Maharishi, after a > while lost his credibility for me. I still swear by the Transcendental > Meditation and it's source in the Holy Tradition with Guru Dev as its > present spiritual representative. But I think Maharishi has 'left the > building' when it comes to any connectedness to the real outer world > with regard to 'spreading the teaching'. > > > > that those listening to him may be listening for > > the first time, so there is repetition, and a mini intro lecture in > > most of his talks. I agree with nablus too, that there are often > > nuggets of gold hidden among the repitition. Maharishi has taught us > > all a technique that stands on its own and doesn't need the constant > > favor and inspiration of a teacher. Better to grow bored of him if > > that is your tendency and find the treasure trove on your own. > > > It isn't a matter of "boredom" to me. It's a matter of spiritual > legitimacy. I'm appalled at his pitches for money for example - and > the question of what happens to all of it when he gets it. Spiritual legitimacy?? Why do you see money as unspiritual? Do you think man invented money, absent from God? Is man really *that* powerful? Money is one of the greatest tools on earth we have available to us for spiritual growth and advancement. I find it very strange to hear so called spiritually oriented people decry the use of money for spiritual pursuits. Similar to those who say that the ego must be killed to achieve enlightenment. Silliness.:-) > > Easy > > enough to do with clear intentions and enough practice; "Practice > > makes perfect".:-) > > > Like I said, it isn't about the TM technique, it's about Maharishi. > Advancement on the path doesn't mean you throw your brains out the > window and ignore the weird abberations in people's behavior, even in > Maharishi. > Fair enough. Now, what if the shoe were on the other foot? What if you could dictate *exactly* how Maharishi should act, in your view, with Maharishi listening to every suggestion you made of him, and following through on it? Or if this ability were expanded to dictate how anyone else in the entire world would act; entire countries, heads of state, people past, present and future? Would you be happier, would that solve all of your issues and problems? Or at the end of the day, would you still be reduced to... you? Dealing with you, and continuing to see the world as you always have seen it, dealing with the same issues you have always dealt with, regardless of Maharishi's, or anyone else's actions?:-)
