--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
>  Your words, Jim, in response to almost everything on the 
abbreviated
> > list I provided:  
> > 
> > "No problem with this. He began the Movement, and as its "CEO" he 
> can
> > do what he likes."
> > 
> > You've set Maharishi at a level of a corporate CEO instead of a
> > spiritual icon. I would tend to agree with that assessment of him
> > however, and further suggest that that indicates that he isn't 
much
> > beyond your average CEO in standards or ethics.
> > 
> > I find it interesting that the only thing that seemed to get your
> > attention in the short list I provided was the disposition of the
> > missing million$ - even though in the thread I extensively 
> elaborated
> > on the other items on that list.
> > 
> > That certainly reveals your position on Maharishi as a teacher 
and 
> as
> > a spiritual icon. It reveals that you are indifferent to whether 
he
> > has any particular standards or not. 
> > 
> > Guru Dev himself, as a young boy, had very rigid standards for
> > whomever was to become his teacher. And Guru Dev himself 
> exemplified
> > the highest standards of spiritual ethics.
> > 
> > What's a bummer to me is that TMers like you seem to think 
> that 'all
> > is well' WITHOUT any of those standards. And people like Jerry ask
> > questions like, "Do you know any billionaires?" as if cash is the
> > 'great answer' in lieu of Paramatman.
> > 
> > Something's rotten in Denmark in my view and the population 
> refuses to
> > notice it, even when it's clearly pointed out. I've experienced 
> that
> > many of those people like it that way however, and will and have
> > overtly, even viciously, attempted to eliminate any effort to 
make 
> it
> > any different.
> >
> You are pretty accurate in reflecting my assessment of Maharishi-- 
> that he can pretty much do as he has done. I did provide a 
reasoning 
> for why I thought this was so; dogma vs attainment of Brahman.
> 
> So I'll take it a step further and say that ordinarily I'd be on 
> your side 100%; that here is a spiritual icon, Maharishi, who is 
not 
> behaving as I would expect a spiritual icon to behave, and 
something 
> should be done about it.
> 
> Except for one thing: 
> 
> I have met too many others who are experiencing the goal of this 
> particular teacher's teaching, too many others who are living 
> Brahman as their daily experience, too many others bathing every 
day 
> and every night in the full sunshine and moonlight of the age of 
> enlightenment. That is, as they say, the proof in the pudding. 
> 
> I agree that on the face of it, Maharishi appears to act in 
> confounding, confusing, even counter-productive ways. And yet, 
> whatever he is doing works. And that is the key. Whatever it is, it 
> works. Kind of like the whole paradigm of enlightenment; I don't 
> know how it works, but it just does.:-)

Maharishi told us a story once of a japanese fellow who just learned 
TM from him on his first visit. He told Maharishi that he had no idea 
what was going on; But : "it works !"  Maharishi seemed to like the 
idea of not understanding anything yet gaining something, as he was 
laughing he was repeating: "it works !"


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