On Dec 11, 2:46 am, real_jax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When creating HTML pages, it took me while before I understood how to use
> uploaded images in the body part. You need to first have a relationship and
> have an image selected in the associated media. (why are those items
> draggable there?

Because many people -- especially in larger installations -- do not
allow contributors to place images inline within their content.
Instead they prefer to have images positioned based on the template
chosen to render the page.  You can order the images because often the
order of images has considerable significance for the design of the
template.

In addition, now that there is a programmatic relationship between
media and content items, you can prevent silly things like
accidentally deleting images that are required by other content.

> why can I tick items on and off, only for deleting?).

Yes.

> When clicking the 'open library' button to add items to that associated
> media only sometimes the html screen upon returning is updated. Items *are*
> added, they just don't show up in the screen.

It's possible that you are closing the library window before the ajax
call in the background has had a chance to update the parent page.
It's a known issue for very slow installations.

> When an item is in the associated media list, only then the 'related object
> content templates' button ( the one that has the farcry logo in it) is
> usefull.

This is by design.  How else would you anticipate this to work?

> It shows all related content, but has some weird behavior:
> *Only* when an item is being previewed first, it can be inserted. And when I

The preview is required because there are multiple ways the image
might be inserted.  In fact, there's a library of little "insertHTML"
templates that you can modify to change the way your content is
inserted.  For example, you might want the image in a div with a
caption.  By default you can choose the source image, the standard
size or thumb nail.

> click the insert button, the image is inserted but the next click (any
> click, anywhere) in the 'related object content templates' window closes it.
> This means that when I want to add 25 images, I have to reopen the window 25
> times.

I can see that might be annoying.  However, we'd recommend that you
shouldn't be embedding 25 images into the body.  You could accomplish
this much more easily by adding a specific template to render a
gallery view, or by using something like a publishing rule to render a
gallery view.  Assuming you are after a gallery of some sort.

> When adding an html page though the same popup it requires me to select a
> 'display type'. The dropdown is empty and thus I cant add anything. I
> probably have to set up a display type somewhere, but.. ah well.. back to
> the mailinglist I guess..

There is a lot of documentation in this area. Please start with the
following page about configuring the rich text editor and let me know
what additional information you need:
http://docs.farcrycms.org:8080/confluence/display/FCDEV40/richtext

> This is all, to put it mildly, counter intuitive.

Perhaps with this additional in-sight you'll be in a better
position :)

> Sure, after a lot of trial and error I will probably figure it out, but it
> makes me feel like a (dumb) user.
> Suppose you are a user. And you are left in charge of your companies website
> and it's content, to be managed with this version of farcry.   Be honest..

Daemon provides both custom documentation and contributor training for
its clients.  We find that the vast majority of our clients take to
their solutions like a duck to water.  We also offer these services to
other companies -- it's how we mange to put food on the table :)

> A lot of criticism, I know. But meant to be constructive. It is not my
> intention to bash Farcry. Far from it.

Glad to hear it!  Would love to have you contributing to making the
community all the stronger.

-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/

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