And Mark thanks for noticing about the url rewrite issue, also good to
know :(

On Mar 4, 7:18 pm, Marco van den Oever <[email protected]>
wrote:
> BazD,
>
> Like Jeff stated above, and also me, and others have tried fc 5 on
> shared server on hms, it's simply to crowded on the servers, even
> sites which are without a framework have several restarts and now and
> then some slowing down.
>
> Derek,
>
> Very interesting link, those are prices and performances i can work
> with indeed, now some further investigation on how their support is
> and how they are reflected on the web in forums etc.
>
> And of course now, buy coldfusion, a one time investment for that
> server, or go with open source which i think is somewhat tricky to put
> clients etc on, for instance if i follow the openbd google threads i
> see a lot of issues and problems i really don't want to invest time
> in...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marco.
>
> On Mar 4, 6:23 pm, Derek <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I too like HMS support and have been happy with them.  I'm also going
> > down the road of multiple clients on a machine at a hosting company
> > but I can't use HMS cause they're a little too pricey for VPS or
> > dedicated.  I'm thinking of going with 1&1 because the have dedicated
> > servers at real good prices - $119/month for Windows and $99 for Linux
> > and gets you a nice box with 2GB of RAM.  That might help some of you
> > guys looking to pay a little less while having enough horsepower for
> > CF and Farcry.  That being said, I've never used 1&1 but they are a
> > huge hosting company so I bet their service is good. Anyone ever used
> > them for dedicated servers?
>
> > Windows dedicated servers:  http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/ServerWindows
> > Linux:http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/ServerRoot
>
> > On Mar 4, 12:10 pm, BazD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Marco,
>
> > > Wouldnt farcry 5 work perfectly on a HMS shared server or have their
> > > been problems getting it to work ? Havnt tried Farcry 5 yet, still
> > > figuring out v4 myself....
>
> > > On Mar 4, 4:44 pm, Marco van den Oever <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Tunç,
>
> > > > Let me begin with agreeing that hms give excellent service, that's the
> > > > reason i am searching for solutions with them, great support indeed,
> > > > in 'good and bad' times.
>
> > > > Personally i thought of the VPS pro package which provide 2 g ram and
> > > > sufficient space etc, it could be payable by eventually, in time,
> > > > placing at least 50 clients on it with small to medium size websites,
> > > > but is it possible... that's the question...
>
> > > > Of course i could run a try out on this but if halfway the road i see
> > > > it's not possible i'm stuck with existing accounts on a expensive
> > > > solution, with prices that are scaled on at least 50 accounts...
>
> > > > BazD,
>
> > > > Based on the above situation and what you tell me, i begin to believe
> > > > that my personal solution could only be a dedicated server... This is
> > > > getting a expensive situation, best solution would be small accounts
> > > > per clients, on hms that gives problems, so i might first have to
> > > > search for some other providers that won't have this timeout and
> > > > overloaded situation...
>
> > > > Where is that hoster that gives framework based hosting up and
> > > > running, and of course for farcry?
>
> > > > Thanks,
>
> > > > Marco.
>
> > > > On Mar 4, 3:51 pm, BazD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Marco,
>
> > > > > 1GB VPS shouldnt be a problem if all you are doing is running a few
> > > > > farcry applications and perhaps an email service like smartermail,
> > > > > verity, and a few basic HTML sites. How many hits the sites get also
> > > > > contributes to the memory useage as more hits = more sessions = more
> > > > > memory for coldfusion requirements.
>
> > > > > Lack of memory tends to lead to services shutting themselves down.
> > > > > Coldfusion seems to be the main memory eater. I regularly have to
> > > > > restart coldfusion service on my 1GB VPS due memory shortages, roughly
> > > > > once every 2 months or so. One day I will look into a 2GB VPS, but at
> > > > > the moment, they are expensive solution. To help overheads on my VPS,
> > > > > Ive hosted the SQL databases on a separate shared database server
> > > > > instead of running them on the VPS.
>
> > > > > I would steer clear of 512mb VPS running coldfusion. Cause nothing but
> > > > > headaches IMHO.
>
> > > > > On Mar 4, 2:23 pm, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I wouldn't recommend less than 1GB RAM. We are with HMS and even 
> > > > > > 1GB is not
> > > > > > enough. I had to turn verity off. I believe they will come with VPS 
> > > > > > 2.0
> > > > > > option at the end of first quarter. They have 2GB option at the 
> > > > > > moment but
> > > > > > quite expensive especially when you don't want CF8 Enterprise and 
> > > > > > massive
> > > > > > space.
>
> > > > > > They give excellent service.
>
> > > > > > Tunç
>
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected] 
> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On
>
> > > > > > Behalf Of BazD
> > > > > > Sent: 04 March 2009 13:38
> > > > > > To: farcry-dev
> > > > > > Subject: [farcry-dev] Re: Cutting down application start-up time
>
> > > > > > Reducing application scope overheads is something that I am very 
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > interested in, especially when having several farcry projects 
> > > > > > sharing
> > > > > > the same core. Most VPS solutions tend to have 512mb min, 2GB max
> > > > > > memory, which Coldfusion can fill up relatively easily on frequently
> > > > > > accessed sites.
>
> > > > > > B
>
> > > > > > On Mar 4, 1:09 pm, Jeff Coughlin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:38 PM, modius wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hmm...  this is unusual.  It takes my dev laptop less than 10 
> > > > > > > > secs to
> > > > > > > > restart an application with a stable full of plugins.  5.1 
> > > > > > > > should be a
> > > > > > > > quicker starter than 5.0.  Would be interesting to know how many
> > > > > > > > content types/rules you have in place on the application.  
> > > > > > > > Might be
> > > > > > > > you have a large application.  Alternatively it suggests that 
> > > > > > > > the host
> > > > > > > > has an abysmally powered server (or under resourced server).
>
> > > > > > > I've seen the same thing when I tested with HMS shared hosting.  
> > > > > > > A  
> > > > > > > vanilla install of FarCry 5.0 and 5.1 would take longer to 
> > > > > > > startup  
> > > > > > > than their default 50 second timeout.  Thus I couldn't get the 
> > > > > > > site to  
> > > > > > > start without them turning off the 50 second timeout for that 
> > > > > > > site  
> > > > > > > (not an available option).
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jeff Coughlin
> > > > > > > Web Application Developerhttp://jeffcoughlin.com
>
>
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