that's the one! thanks.... i had seen that quite awhile ago, and then forgotten about it, because i don't have any cats who fight me for fluids--but i got a huge kick out of their being a scientific research paper done on it, talking about which nerves were involved, whether the cat really seemed to mind it, and which type of clip worked the best....
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MC, I think you mean Tanya's web site where they use clothes pins. Here is > the link. > > http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick > > Usually folks just have to use the clothes pins for the 1st few times. > > > > Here is another link for giving Sub Q fluids that was my bible when I 1st > started. He explains everything in detail and has some great pictures. > Sophia has now crossed the Rainbow Bridge. > > *Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) > Fluids*<http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4GOCSC_B3Ism0gLqPzrsf_kkO7p7g3FDsWjq8ebMn6u5w80feOlTQ2dZ2g6lRtoA8yFufP4fiIo37FymFOD5Xw/Tiny%20URLs%20that%20work%21/Sophia%20Gets%20Her%20Subcutaneous%20%28Sub%20Q%29%20%20Fluids> > * * > http://www.tinyurl.com/63max > > Sharyl > > --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:25 PM > > > i THINK it was on this list that i first saw the reference, and i'm > pretty sure it's on one of the big crf sites--hopefully someone here can > help. there's a page that shows how to "clip" a cat in the same way that > momcat's scruff them, to immobilize them, and make it possible to hydrate > them by yourself. > > earlier this year, winn feline foundation (www.winnfelinehealth.org) > actually did research on this technique, using a variety of commonly found > household clips, so that you do NOT have to go out and buy the cat-specific > one.... i can't find ANYTHING these days, so hopefully someone else saves > these things in a more logical way..... > > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:27 PM, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> His creat is 2.5. >> >> He will come to me and let me stick him, but then he struggles to get >> away. Maybe I should try putting him in a carrier? >> >> Most of the pages I saw had 2 people to help, and I don't have anyone here >> but me. >> t >> >> *Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> Tonya, you just do what you can do. For a CRF kitty with a Crea >> value in the high 3's daily fluids are generally needed to maintain adequate >> hydration. Add water to the canned food to increase his water intake. Set >> out lots of bowls of water in various places to encourage him to drink. >> Mine love to drink from a bowl in the bath tub. >> >> For me fluids take less than 5 minutes from start to finish but I do not >> warm the fluids. Never did and mine are fine with that. But each kitty is >> different as to what they will tolerate. Could you manage EOD (every other >> day). >> >> In the end we do what we can and hope for the best. Luckily I'm retired. >> Between my CRF Pequita, Sissy and Rocket with FeLV+ quarantined in my >> bedroom and Daisy's 4 FeLV+ babies quarantined out in the garage my 2 >> healthy kitties don't get much attention right now. And I have a dumpster >> colony I feed daily and am trying to set up a TNR program for. >> >> Obviously your Mom and Grandmother take priority. I'll say a prayer for >> both of them >> Sharyl >> >> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:20 AM >> >> Thank you so much Sharyl, >> >> I ordered some of the phosphorous binder. I hope it helps. Both you and >> Belinda said you didn't think I should be giving fluids only once a week. >> how many times a week do you think I should give them. Daily is just not >> doable. I have 3 very sick cats, plus a sick grandmother and very sick >> mother to take care of right now.......... I know I'm making excuses, but I >> can only do what I can do.......... >> t >> >> *Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> Tonya, I always say the best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phos >> canned food they will eat. Generally the target is less than 1% (dry >> matter). Here is a link to a list of foods and the dry matter phos levels. >> http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm >> >> You vet should have several prescription renal foods. Mine refused to eat >> any of them. What is your kitty's phos level? If it is over 6.0 you can >> add Dried Aluminum Hydroxide Gel to the canned or dry food. It is a very >> effective phos binder but it has to be in all the food you cat eats. By >> adding the binder to the food you reduce the amount of phos the cat absorbs >> from the food. Binders do not do anything about the phos currently in your >> cats system. Just gives you cats kidneys a break while they process what is >> already there. Here is a link to more info on binders. >> *About Phosphorus >> Binders*<http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YPOBSKUAe1vSPaTzsC-nOdsOnf1_BdpafMc7lF7n0MekqT8MJ1znNQJYUtw2iWwm5igm5xzkJUzGvwA7SJkR6g/Tiny%20URLs%20that%20work%21/About%20Phosphorus%20Binders> >> * * >> http://tinyurl.com/37nye >> Dr. Nagode's dose recommendations are toward the bottom. Unfortunately >> most vets do not understand the impact high phos has on a CRF kitty. Most >> will try to sell you Epakitin which is pretty worthless for high phos nos. >> You can buy the aluminum hydroxide on line. No Rx required. >> >> Tanya's web site is the most comprehensive I have found for CRF. >> www.felineCRF.org <http://www.felinecrf.org/> >> >> The largest Yahoo CRF group is here. >> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/ >> >> Eating is often an issue for a CRF kitty. Just like FeLV+ kitties it is >> critical for CRF kitties to eat enough to maintain their ideal body wt. >> There is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group as well. >> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ >> >> Let me know if you need any other info. Unfortunately my life had >> revolved around CRF kitties for the last 2 1/2 yrs. >> Sharyl >> >> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:11 AM >> >> can anyone tell me what numbers are considered to be 'low' for a crf >> cat. or better yet give me brand names?? >> thanks in advance. tonya >> >> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... > > MaryChristine > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing [EMAIL > PROTECTED]://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! 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