I think Bob is too fat to use the clothespins. In fact I think that is why the
vet recommended the cosequin. He asked me if he had problems getting around
due to his weight and age.... The clothespins just kind of twisted inside out
as he wiggled around. Bob topped 20 pounds at his highest weight. He's over
15 or 16 now.
t
Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MC, I think you mean Tanya's web site where they use clothes pins.
Here is the link.
http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_syringe.htm#clothes_peg_trick
Usually folks just have to use the clothes pins for the 1st few times.
Here is another link for giving Sub Q fluids that was my bible when I 1st
started. He explains everything in detail and has some great pictures. Sophia
has now crossed the Rainbow Bridge.
Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids
http://www.tinyurl.com/63max
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:25 PM
i THINK it was on this list that i first saw the reference, and i'm pretty
sure it's on one of the big crf sites--hopefully someone here can help. there's
a page that shows how to "clip" a cat in the same way that momcat's scruff
them, to immobilize them, and make it possible to hydrate them by yourself.
earlier this year, winn feline foundation (www.winnfelinehealth.org) actually
did research on this technique, using a variety of commonly found household
clips, so that you do NOT have to go out and buy the cat-specific one.... i
can't find ANYTHING these days, so hopefully someone else saves these things in
a more logical way.....
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:27 PM, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
His creat is 2.5.
He will come to me and let me stick him, but then he struggles to get away.
Maybe I should try putting him in a carrier?
Most of the pages I saw had 2 people to help, and I don't have anyone here
but me.
t
Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tonya, you just do what you can do. For a CRF kitty with a Crea
value in the high 3's daily fluids are generally needed to maintain adequate
hydration. Add water to the canned food to increase his water intake. Set out
lots of bowls of water in various places to encourage him to drink. Mine love
to drink from a bowl in the bath tub.
For me fluids take less than 5 minutes from start to finish but I do not warm
the fluids. Never did and mine are fine with that. But each kitty is
different as to what they will tolerate. Could you manage EOD (every other
day).
In the end we do what we can and hope for the best. Luckily I'm retired.
Between my CRF Pequita, Sissy and Rocket with FeLV+ quarantined in my bedroom
and Daisy's 4 FeLV+ babies quarantined out in the garage my 2 healthy kitties
don't get much attention right now. And I have a dumpster colony I feed daily
and am trying to set up a TNR program for.
Obviously your Mom and Grandmother take priority. I'll say a prayer for both
of them
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:20 AM
Thank you so much Sharyl,
I ordered some of the phosphorous binder. I hope it helps. Both you and
Belinda said you didn't think I should be giving fluids only once a week. how
many times a week do you think I should give them. Daily is just not doable.
I have 3 very sick cats, plus a sick grandmother and very sick mother to take
care of right now.......... I know I'm making excuses, but I can only do what
I can do..........
t
Sharyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tonya, I always say the best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest
phos canned food they will eat. Generally the target is less than 1% (dry
matter). Here is a link to a list of foods and the dry matter phos levels.
http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm
You vet should have several prescription renal foods. Mine refused to eat
any of them. What is your kitty's phos level? If it is over 6.0 you can add
Dried Aluminum Hydroxide Gel to the canned or dry food. It is a very effective
phos binder but it has to be in all the food you cat eats. By adding the
binder to the food you reduce the amount of phos the cat absorbs from the food.
Binders do not do anything about the phos currently in your cats system. Just
gives you cats kidneys a break while they process what is already there. Here
is a link to more info on binders.
About Phosphorus Binders
http://tinyurl.com/37nye
Dr. Nagode's dose recommendations are toward the bottom. Unfortunately most
vets do not understand the impact high phos has on a CRF kitty. Most will try
to sell you Epakitin which is pretty worthless for high phos nos. You can buy
the aluminum hydroxide on line. No Rx required.
Tanya's web site is the most comprehensive I have found for CRF.
www.felineCRF.org
The largest Yahoo CRF group is here.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/
Eating is often an issue for a CRF kitty. Just like FeLV+ kitties it is
critical for CRF kitties to eat enough to maintain their ideal body wt. There
is a Yahoo Assist Feeding group as well.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
Let me know if you need any other info. Unfortunately my life had revolved
around CRF kitties for the last 2 1/2 yrs.
Sharyl
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Felvtalk] low phospherous foods
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:11 AM
can anyone tell me what numbers are considered to be 'low' for a crf cat.
or better yet give me brand names??
thanks in advance. tonya
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