Thank you - will look next time we go.  We get the litter at WalMart and
sometimes at Sam's Club if the other doesn't have it.  I will Google it
tomorrow.  Natalie

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

OdoBan is available at Sam's and some WalMarts.  I can't say enough  
good about it.  I prefer the vingar and water for regular cleaning.   
It is safe and fairly inexpensive.  Google it ... the number of uses  
and products it can replace is amazing.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Natalie wrote:

> I haven't heard of OdoBan. There's also nature's Miracle, which has  
> been
> hyped...doesn't work so well.  I like" 0-Odor" (Zero Odor), and "What
> Odor?", and Professor Amos' "RIGHT AWAY" - all safe for animals.   
> I've tried
> spraying 0-Odor in top of the litter and it really takes the smell
> away...but I usually sprinkle baking soda into the litter box after  
> I've
> scooped it; it refreshes and keeps the litter smelling better for a  
> lot
> longer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:22 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
>
> It works great and so does OdoBan.
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:19 AM, paola cresti wrote:
>
>> hadn't tried that one yet, thanks Natalie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 6:10:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
>>
>> If you have "pissy cats", as I do, I found that the best cleaner is
>> a 50/50
>> white vinegar/water mixture (in a spray bottle) - I wash all
>> surfaces with
>> it, it's fresh-smelling, does a great job, and not harmful to cats  
>> and
>> environment. The vinegar odor dissipates very quickly. There are a
>> 1,000
>> great uses for distilled white vinegar.Natalie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola  
>> cresti
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
>>
>>
>>
>> Melinda,
>> I feel your pain, I have in and out cats (live in a complex in the
>> city away
>>
>> from any possible cat-predators and in a house recessed from the
>> street,
>> small
>> patio but with a grassy green area in front of my unit) as my place  
>> is
>> rather
>> small and I have several cats. 2 are indoors only (or just the
>> patio) as
>> they
>> have a hard time with the 5+ foot wooden fence, they only go out if
>> I'm
>> outside
>> and when I got back in I call them and they come right in. One can
>> get out
>> easily but prefers staying in with mommy (his actual mommy) and me.
>> 2 of
>> them
>> if I keep them in they will meow as if I was skinning them alive...
>> well one
>>
>> meows the other constantly runs around looking for a way out, and
>> one is
>> half
>> feral and feuding with my other females so is almost always out, but
>> she's
>> adopted the  patios of several neighbours so I always know where to
>> find
>> her.
>>
>> When it's bad weather and if I go on a trip (and have a catsitter) I
>> close
>> them
>> in and suffer the consequences, ripped up stuff, peeing around etc...
>>
>> Then I took in a little stray that turned out to be FeLV+. His room
>> is the
>> garage but when I'm home I let him in the house and supervise him.
>> Call him
>> at
>> intervals, check where he is. He's gotten used to being checked up
>> on and I
>> noticed that I could do this with letting him outside too. Mostly
>> because
>> he's
>> so quick and sneaky he managed to get out once when I was closing
>> the door.
>> Had
>> to stop of I would have closed it on him (little daredevil) but I
>> followed
>> him
>> out and not alarmed at all called him back and petted him a while
>> prior to
>> taking him back in. The result is I can take him out now for actual
>> "walks"
>> like
>> a dog without a leash. He follows me if I change direction from
>> where he's
>> going
>> and if I call him back.
>>
>> There  is another feral cat outside that I feed and my little Felv+
>> Angel
>> (who
>> is really happy to have a home and doesn't want to leave... just
>> visit the
>> outdoors every now and then) probably was in feuds with him before
>> so once
>> he
>> took off and chased him. I had to run after them like a crazy lady
>> and then
>> took
>> him and uncerimoniously put him in the garage. No fuss. But somehow
>> he got
>> it
>> and that was the last time he chased him.
>>
>> They're pretty smart and when they want to please you they figure
>> out what
>> you
>> want from them if you can give them clear messages, and no cat wants
>> to
>> please
>> you like a stray you took in, I'm sorry to say. It's so sweet, but
>> it's so
>> sad
>> that they would be made to feel that way.
>>
>> Paola
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Melinda Kerr <msk...@me.com>
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:04:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
>>
>> I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
>> animals, most
>> strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped)
>> and the
>>
>> likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation  
>> with
>> another
>> cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought them from the
>> states
>> and
>> have already had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let
>> out.
>> The
>> speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
>> (about
>> 25
>> mph.)  I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she
>> goes
>> outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have
>> done since
>> she
>> got sick.  However, if she occasionally manages to escape my
>> clutches, I
>> won't
>> worry too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home in a
>> couple of
>>
>> hours.  I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and
>> happy.
>>
>>
>> Thanks again for your input and concern.
>>
>> Melinda and  Fuji
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
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