It's interesting, but after we had this "conversation" about OdoBan last week, I found a bottle of X-O in my vast arsenal of odor-removing/neutralizing products, and used it on a very stubborn peed on area - it worked immediately. I don't know why the X-O was stuck in the back - I truly believe it's the best one I've used so far. It comes in concentrated form. There's a also a super concentrated cleaner made by X-O - I am going back to it. I found a very inexpensive source online, if anyone would like to try it. Natalie
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia late reply but I hadn't been reading my emails for a while and am jsut catching up now. thanks for this tip too, much appreciated. ________________________________ From: Cougar Clan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 6:22:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia It works great and so does OdoBan. On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:19 AM, paola cresti wrote: > hadn't tried that one yet, thanks Natalie. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Natalie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 6:10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia > > If you have "pissy cats", as I do, I found that the best cleaner is a 50/50 > white vinegar/water mixture (in a spray bottle) - I wash all surfaces with > it, it's fresh-smelling, does a great job, and not harmful to cats and > environment. The vinegar odor dissipates very quickly. There are a 1,000 > great uses for distilled white vinegar.Natalie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of paola cresti > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia > > > > Melinda, > I feel your pain, I have in and out cats (live in a complex in the city away > > from any possible cat-predators and in a house recessed from the street, > small > patio but with a grassy green area in front of my unit) as my place is > rather > small and I have several cats. 2 are indoors only (or just the patio) as > they > have a hard time with the 5+ foot wooden fence, they only go out if I'm > outside > and when I got back in I call them and they come right in. One can get out > easily but prefers staying in with mommy (his actual mommy) and me. 2 of > them > if I keep them in they will meow as if I was skinning them alive... well one > > meows the other constantly runs around looking for a way out, and one is > half > feral and feuding with my other females so is almost always out, but she's > adopted the patios of several neighbours so I always know where to find > her. > > When it's bad weather and if I go on a trip (and have a catsitter) I close > them > in and suffer the consequences, ripped up stuff, peeing around etc... > > Then I took in a little stray that turned out to be FeLV+. His room is the > garage but when I'm home I let him in the house and supervise him. Call him > at > intervals, check where he is. He's gotten used to being checked up on and I > noticed that I could do this with letting him outside too. Mostly because > he's > so quick and sneaky he managed to get out once when I was closing the door. > Had > to stop of I would have closed it on him (little daredevil) but I followed > him > out and not alarmed at all called him back and petted him a while prior to > taking him back in. The result is I can take him out now for actual "walks" > like > a dog without a leash. He follows me if I change direction from where he's > going > and if I call him back. > > There is another feral cat outside that I feed and my little Felv+ Angel > (who > is really happy to have a home and doesn't want to leave... just visit the > outdoors every now and then) probably was in feuds with him before so once > he > took off and chased him. I had to run after them like a crazy lady and then > took > him and uncerimoniously put him in the garage. No fuss. But somehow he got > it > and that was the last time he chased him. > > They're pretty smart and when they want to please you they figure out what > you > want from them if you can give them clear messages, and no cat wants to > please > you like a stray you took in, I'm sorry to say. It's so sweet, but it's so > sad > that they would be made to feel that way. > > Paola > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Melinda Kerr <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:04:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia > > I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild animals, most > strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped) and the > > likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation with > another > cat are very slim. Most people who have cats brought them from the states > and > have already had them vaccinated. Again, very few are actually let out. > The > speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour (about > 25 > mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she goes > outside. I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have done since > she > got sick. However, if she occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I > won't > worry too much! She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of > > hours. I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy. > > > Thanks again for your input and concern. > > Melinda and Fuji > On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

