It's interesting, but after we had this "conversation" about OdoBan last
week, I found a bottle of X-O in my vast arsenal of
odor-removing/neutralizing products, and used it on a very stubborn peed on
area - it worked immediately.  I don't know why the X-O was stuck in the
back - I truly believe it's the best one I've used so far.  It comes in
concentrated form.  There's a also a super concentrated cleaner made by X-O
- I am going back to it. I found a very inexpensive source online, if anyone
would like to try it. Natalie

-----Original Message-----
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

late reply but I hadn't been reading my emails for a while and am jsut
catching 
up now.
thanks for this tip too, much appreciated.




________________________________
From: Cougar Clan <maima...@duo-county.com>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 6:22:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia

It works great and so does OdoBan.
On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:19 AM, paola cresti wrote:

> hadn't tried that one yet, thanks Natalie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 6:10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> 
> If you have "pissy cats", as I do, I found that the best cleaner is a
50/50
> white vinegar/water mixture (in a spray bottle) - I wash all surfaces with
> it, it's fresh-smelling, does a great job, and not harmful to cats and
> environment. The vinegar odor dissipates very quickly. There are a 1,000
> great uses for distilled white vinegar.Natalie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> 
> 
> 
> Melinda,
> I feel your pain, I have in and out cats (live in a complex in the city
away
> 
> from any possible cat-predators and in a house recessed from the street,
> small
> patio but with a grassy green area in front of my unit) as my place is
> rather
> small and I have several cats. 2 are indoors only (or just the patio) as
> they
> have a hard time with the 5+ foot wooden fence, they only go out if I'm
> outside
> and when I got back in I call them and they come right in. One can get out
> easily but prefers staying in with mommy (his actual mommy) and me.  2 of
> them
> if I keep them in they will meow as if I was skinning them alive... well
one
> 
> meows the other constantly runs around looking for a way out, and one is
> half
> feral and feuding with my other females so is almost always out, but she's
> adopted the  patios of several neighbours so I always know where to find
> her.
> 
> When it's bad weather and if I go on a trip (and have a catsitter) I close
> them
> in and suffer the consequences, ripped up stuff, peeing around etc...
> 
> Then I took in a little stray that turned out to be FeLV+. His room is the
> garage but when I'm home I let him in the house and supervise him. Call
him
> at
> intervals, check where he is. He's gotten used to being checked up on and
I
> noticed that I could do this with letting him outside too. Mostly because
> he's
> so quick and sneaky he managed to get out once when I was closing the
door.
> Had
> to stop of I would have closed it on him (little daredevil) but I followed
> him
> out and not alarmed at all called him back and petted him a while prior to
> taking him back in. The result is I can take him out now for actual
"walks"
> like
> a dog without a leash. He follows me if I change direction from where he's
> going
> and if I call him back.
> 
> There  is another feral cat outside that I feed and my little Felv+ Angel
> (who
> is really happy to have a home and doesn't want to leave... just visit the
> outdoors every now and then) probably was in feuds with him before so once
> he
> took off and chased him. I had to run after them like a crazy lady and
then
> took
> him and uncerimoniously put him in the garage. No fuss. But somehow he got
> it
> and that was the last time he chased him.
> 
> They're pretty smart and when they want to please you they figure out what
> you
> want from them if you can give them clear messages, and no cat wants to
> please
> you like a stray you took in, I'm sorry to say. It's so sweet, but it's so
> sad
> that they would be made to feel that way.
> 
> Paola
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Melinda Kerr <msk...@me.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:04:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> 
> I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild animals,
most
> strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped) and
the
> 
> likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation with
> another
> cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought them from the states
> and
> have already had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.
> The
> speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour (about
> 25
> mph.)  I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she goes
> outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have done
since
> she
> got sick.  However, if she occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I
> won't
> worry too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple
of
> 
> hours.  I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.
> 
> 
> Thanks again for your input and concern.
> 
> Melinda and  Fuji
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
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