THIS IS FOR PAOLA I THINK - SOUNDS LIKE YOU LIVE AT MY HOUSE ITH THE IN AND 
OUT, INSIDE ALWAYS AND THE COMPLAINERS WHO DON'T GET WHAT THEY WANT.  FUN ISN'T 
IT.
---- Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: 
> Thank you - will look next time we go.  We get the litter at WalMart and
> sometimes at Sam's Club if the other doesn't have it.  I will Google it
> tomorrow.  Natalie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> 
> OdoBan is available at Sam's and some WalMarts.  I can't say enough  
> good about it.  I prefer the vingar and water for regular cleaning.   
> It is safe and fairly inexpensive.  Google it ... the number of uses  
> and products it can replace is amazing.
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Natalie wrote:
> 
> > I haven't heard of OdoBan. There's also nature's Miracle, which has  
> > been
> > hyped...doesn't work so well.  I like" 0-Odor" (Zero Odor), and "What
> > Odor?", and Professor Amos' "RIGHT AWAY" - all safe for animals.   
> > I've tried
> > spraying 0-Odor in top of the litter and it really takes the smell
> > away...but I usually sprinkle baking soda into the litter box after  
> > I've
> > scooped it; it refreshes and keeps the litter smelling better for a  
> > lot
> > longer.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:22 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> >
> > It works great and so does OdoBan.
> > On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:19 AM, paola cresti wrote:
> >
> >> hadn't tried that one yet, thanks Natalie.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net>
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 6:10:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> >>
> >> If you have "pissy cats", as I do, I found that the best cleaner is
> >> a 50/50
> >> white vinegar/water mixture (in a spray bottle) - I wash all
> >> surfaces with
> >> it, it's fresh-smelling, does a great job, and not harmful to cats  
> >> and
> >> environment. The vinegar odor dissipates very quickly. There are a
> >> 1,000
> >> great uses for distilled white vinegar.Natalie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola  
> >> cresti
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 AM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Melinda,
> >> I feel your pain, I have in and out cats (live in a complex in the
> >> city away
> >>
> >> from any possible cat-predators and in a house recessed from the
> >> street,
> >> small
> >> patio but with a grassy green area in front of my unit) as my place  
> >> is
> >> rather
> >> small and I have several cats. 2 are indoors only (or just the
> >> patio) as
> >> they
> >> have a hard time with the 5+ foot wooden fence, they only go out if
> >> I'm
> >> outside
> >> and when I got back in I call them and they come right in. One can
> >> get out
> >> easily but prefers staying in with mommy (his actual mommy) and me.
> >> 2 of
> >> them
> >> if I keep them in they will meow as if I was skinning them alive...
> >> well one
> >>
> >> meows the other constantly runs around looking for a way out, and
> >> one is
> >> half
> >> feral and feuding with my other females so is almost always out, but
> >> she's
> >> adopted the  patios of several neighbours so I always know where to
> >> find
> >> her.
> >>
> >> When it's bad weather and if I go on a trip (and have a catsitter) I
> >> close
> >> them
> >> in and suffer the consequences, ripped up stuff, peeing around etc...
> >>
> >> Then I took in a little stray that turned out to be FeLV+. His room
> >> is the
> >> garage but when I'm home I let him in the house and supervise him.
> >> Call him
> >> at
> >> intervals, check where he is. He's gotten used to being checked up
> >> on and I
> >> noticed that I could do this with letting him outside too. Mostly
> >> because
> >> he's
> >> so quick and sneaky he managed to get out once when I was closing
> >> the door.
> >> Had
> >> to stop of I would have closed it on him (little daredevil) but I
> >> followed
> >> him
> >> out and not alarmed at all called him back and petted him a while
> >> prior to
> >> taking him back in. The result is I can take him out now for actual
> >> "walks"
> >> like
> >> a dog without a leash. He follows me if I change direction from
> >> where he's
> >> going
> >> and if I call him back.
> >>
> >> There  is another feral cat outside that I feed and my little Felv+
> >> Angel
> >> (who
> >> is really happy to have a home and doesn't want to leave... just
> >> visit the
> >> outdoors every now and then) probably was in feuds with him before
> >> so once
> >> he
> >> took off and chased him. I had to run after them like a crazy lady
> >> and then
> >> took
> >> him and uncerimoniously put him in the garage. No fuss. But somehow
> >> he got
> >> it
> >> and that was the last time he chased him.
> >>
> >> They're pretty smart and when they want to please you they figure
> >> out what
> >> you
> >> want from them if you can give them clear messages, and no cat wants
> >> to
> >> please
> >> you like a stray you took in, I'm sorry to say. It's so sweet, but
> >> it's so
> >> sad
> >> that they would be made to feel that way.
> >>
> >> Paola
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Melinda Kerr <msk...@me.com>
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 9:04:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia
> >>
> >> I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
> >> animals, most
> >> strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is collared and chipped)
> >> and the
> >>
> >> likelihood of Fuji coming across and getting into a confrontation  
> >> with
> >> another
> >> cat are very slim.  Most people who have cats brought them from the
> >> states
> >> and
> >> have already had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let
> >> out.
> >> The
> >> speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
> >> (about
> >> 25
> >> mph.)  I know there are a lot of things she can come across if she
> >> goes
> >> outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out with her as I have
> >> done since
> >> she
> >> got sick.  However, if she occasionally manages to escape my
> >> clutches, I
> >> won't
> >> worry too much!  She stays pretty close and always comes home in a
> >> couple of
> >>
> >> hours.  I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and
> >> happy.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your input and concern.
> >>
> >> Melinda and  Fuji
> >> On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
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