I'm sorry you feel this way - but I have NEVER met any rescuers who were, as you say, "cut-throat" on anything other than their total dedication for standing up for the helpless who are abused in more ways than we can imagine, although many of us believe that we have "seen it all". If they are anything close to that, at times, it would be perfectly understandable after being exposed to this work day after day, 24/7, for years. I cringe every time the telephone rings because I know that most of the time it will start with "I've got this cat....", and the rest will be absolute garbage...... Natalie
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Yes, I am. When I originally came to this list, it was because I had a kitten who tested "light pos" (I have since learned there is no such thing) and SR was giving me no support whatsoever so I came here for support instead. Everyone here wanted to know who the rescue was but I didn't tell them because I think telling names of rescues is tacky. Everyone here was also incredibly supportive when the horror that was visited on myself and my personal and rescued cats came. I have been really glad to have this list over the years. I love doing rescue but I've learned that other rescuers tend to be cutthroat and just plain mean to other people. I think if we were all nicer to other people and to animals this world would be a much better place. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Edna Taylor <taylore...@msn.com> wrote: > > Kelley, > > Are you the same Kelley from Austin who used to work with Siamese Rescue? > > > > From: moonv...@gmail.com > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:29:20 -0500 > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! > > > > I don't ask them if they have cable TV. I just give them food. > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > > > We are all supportive of anyone who rescues, deals with unwanted and/or > > > sick > > > cats, fills their homes with discarded animals! I cannot tolerate > people > > > who are hypocritical about animals; pretending to love them, and then > give > > > them up at the drop of a hat even if it means abandoning them outside > to > > > fend for themselves! > > > Here's one I just got this alert; perfect example: > > > > > > Subject: DECLAWED CAT---2 YRS OLD > > > A rescue friend told me that the place in Queens where she buys her pet > > > supplies found a cat left in a carrier outside his door this AM. She is > > > about 2 years old, extremely friendly, seems healthy and is DECLAWED. > Her > > > coat is a luxurious shiny black. He is calling her Sophia. She has to > stay > > > in a cage until he finds her a home. If you know anyone who might like > to > > > help this baby, please call or text 917 689 8414 No pic available at > this > > > time. > > > > > > There are other ways of dealing with not being able to care for your > > > animal. > > > My husband and I supply a woman with cat food and litter for her 3 cats > > > because she can't afford it, or else we would have to take her cats > into > > > our > > > home. My question to someone who claims that they have no money to buy > cat > > > food is "do you have cable TV?" The response has often been "Yes, > but....I > > > need it." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor > > > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:19 PM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, as has been proven by a few cruelty cases here in Texas, > > > giving away pets on Craigslist is a recipe for disaster. Case in point > > > (no, > > > I will not post the article here) but there was a man in San Antonio > who > > > appeared to be loving and caring, he "adopted" three free cats from CL > and > > > all there of their lives ended in a horrible fashion. > > > > > > I have been in rescue for over 15 years, I have seen what lies beneath > the > > > and I have seen what unimaginable cruelty people are capable of. Sorry > to > > > get off topic here with these posts and I know that many of you are not > in > > > rescue but what has been seen cannot be unseen and what I now know can > > > never > > > be forgotten. > > > > > > As to Nathan Winograd, my only objection to his book is him saying > there is > > > no pet overpopulation problem. I have a house full of cats that prove > > > otherwise. Anyone who has TNR'd a feral colony would argue otherwise > and I > > > have one cat in my house that I have marketed the cr*p out of but I > have > > > not > > > gotten one hit on her. There IS a pet overpopulation problem and > no-kill > > > begins with NO BIRTH. > > > > > > Okay, I will get off my soapbox now. Again, my apologies for getting > off > > > topic. > > > > > > Edna Taylor > > > Texas Siamese Rescue > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: moonv...@gmail.com > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:59:04 -0500 > > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! > > > > > > > > According to studies, giving away cats and dogs does not make the > person > > > > value them any less. I paid $5 for my Missy and she is priceless - > there > > > is > > > > not enough money in the world to make me give her up. Giving away > cats > > > > and dogs, when followup and education can be done, is a great way to > find > > > > homes for more animals. > > > > > > > > Have you ever read Revolution by Nathan Winograd? It talks a lot > about > > > this > > > > stuff. I'm a pretty strong no-kill advocate. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, D.S.Louis <delain...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > > > Please help Trooper! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper > > > > > > "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they > > can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they > > should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." > > > > - Nathan Winograd > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org